I enjoyed reading your blog, thank you.
My background is more towards science - and so from the many forms of evidence seen here, and lack of evidence, im clearly on the side of believing many factions of the USA were in on this. the only aspect of this that i personally could not wrap my head around - was the aspect of the 'planes', the passengers, and how these fit into the overall scheme of what happened on 911. its been 10 years since ive gone back to find info about 911, and recently i found this...
an interview by someone much closer to the commercial airline industry than i will ever be. her name Rebekah Roth, and is the author of a book 'Methodical Illusion'
i think anyone here still arguing over aspects of the planes and passengers, will have something seriously to ponder from what she presents.
me personally, i believe that either; a) if an object did in fact hit the twin towers it would have been the same, or similar, type of missile that hit the pentagon, and that to go further some type of 'beacon' must have been pre-planted to assure such highly accurate strikes (and doctored videos were shown to the world - god i love how silly it looks as though the plane flew into butter, with no elements falling backwards towards the street. only a totally ignorant person - completely devoid of knowledge of materials of physics could believe such video footage of a plane disappearing into a massive steel box columns with such tight column-to-column spacing - just like a magic show), b) or simply, no object hit the twin towers at all and these were pre-planed explosions to simulate a flying object hitting the buildings.
As a long time 9-11 theorists, every once in a while I go back and look at it again to see what new information I can understand or intuit. Up until just recently I dismissed the people who advocated no planes being used as absolutely wrong but now I am coming to believe that no plane hit the South Tower for this simple reason that even a child can understand: The wing tips of the alleged plane that hit the tower is so fragile it cannot even be stood on without breaking but somehow the hole created after the plane supposedly entered the building shows these fragile wing tips cutting through the steel reinforced external shell of the building as if it were made of butter, a physical impossibility. I had never really thought about it before but IMO this proves that the hole we all saw on television could not have been created by a plane and thus it proves two things: 1) the hole was created by some other means to create the illusion of the fragile wing tips slicing through steel. 2) There could not have been a plane responsible for it. Even though I do not understand how they could have achieved it, the holes must have been created by shaped charges that somehow exactly corresponded to the "plane" entering the face of the building with no resistance whatsoever. If anyone has a proposed explanation or theory about how they did this, I would love to hear it.
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Yea, the victims never existed. And a life-long family friend was just a figment of our imaginations--who called from the airport before leaving on a flight that never existed. In order to believe any of this, you have to: 1)believe that an aircraft flying in excess of 500 mph into a structure and then suffering fuel explosions and fire would leave "serial number" evidence behind, 2) that "DNA evidence" was something that, in 2001, was commonly gathered and investigated by anything other than a government entity or at a government request, 3) That all the administrative paperwork for all the involved airlines at all the involved airports were all in error, including insurance records for people who purchased flight insurance prior to their flights, and 4) that the thousands of friends, families, and coworkers of the victims are actually part of the greatest conspiracy ever conceived, let alone perpetrated.
Of course, write whatever you want. But I haven't seen a shred of evidence that holds up to the light of day or the scales of reason that even hints at some conspiracy that took our dear friend from us.
Thank you for your reply. Perhaps you are willing to answer a few questions before I respond to the rest of what you say:
1) To what "life-long family friend" do you refer?
2) What flight do you say they were on?
Charles your argument doesn't hold water with me. I inspect the rotating hardwear in Aircraft Engines for GE. These parts are made out of forged Inconel, Rene', and Titanium steels. We use CNC machines and carbide tipped tooling because they are very hard metals to machine. We dot peen mark the part number and serial number along with other identifying numbers on every part as required by the FAA. While at full throttle these parts glow orange because of the heat that's generated in a jet engine. And what you're saying is that the fire got so hot it melted our engine parts that weigh several hundred pounds beyond recognition, yet we found DNA? No disrespect but that is the most ignorant claim I have ever heard and I've heard it one too many times unfortunately. That is why this whole 9/11 ordeal stinks to high heaven and makes it obvious to me, an aircraft engines core parts regardless if they're manufactured by RR,PW,or GE, simply do not burn up into thin air. I have yet seen any evidence ...of any engine components.... at any crash site what's so ever . The Government is insulting my intelligence by claiming planes crashed yet produce little to no wreckage , especially not a significant amount of engine wreckage.
bone's melting point is ~3000 degrees f.
steel melts at a lower temp.
it's possible to find dna. the more fire there is the hotter the core temp of the entire fire gets. it's possible your engine melted.
but these are just probabilities.
But there was a huge aircraft engine display at the bottom of tower 1. It was from the wrong aircraft, and planted by the V
That is complete evidence of a very intricate plot. Oh, and by the way, a plane wasn't flown into the Pentagon.
I'm an A&P.. worked with all of those metals ..and they can certainly be rendered unrecognizable. Guess again.
I have been exposed to "teleportation" or transporting or the rearrangement of molecules and the transmitting of them from one location to another
I wrote a research paper submitted to UCLA World Arts and Cultures Programs which was systematically destroyed by "happenings" in which I theorized that 09/11 and the Afghanistan War was about the want to by private individuals and special interests of the government to build an oil pipeline across Afghanistan and also cultivate poppy seeds. I have opinions since then that the Pipeline is being built that Pakastan is the cover for what were plans for oil between interests of the United States and what appears to be India. Possibly usa and THAt India using a portion of a stolen( this is completely real what I am saying) that there is a stolen lotto from me used in gambling games in india,thailand,and African countries possibly using my families images and that these games begun to my knowledge 1997 helped fuel the creation of the tragedy of 09/11. THIS IS THEORIES I HAVE. IT IS ALSO MY OPINION THAT THESE COUNTRIED WILL BENEFIT FROM A USA SPONSORED OIL CONSORTIUM TYPE ORGANIZATION..KOREAS,INDIA,THE OCCUPIED ISRAEL BY FORCE, AFRICAN COUNTRIES UNKNOWN TO ME AND POSSIBLT CZECH REPUBLIC. AND UK. THIS IS ALL I AM THEORIZING NOW
no one was on those planes the were USA military air force planes. they were gray with no windows and had a pod underneath the plane. your buddy got paid out bro. look at the footage that came back from the FBI. why was the rubble burning for 2 week at 2800 degrees. because the pod underneath the plane had white phosphorous in it and you can see the spark before impact. your buddy may be gone or not buT you should yell at your fucking government and not the people seeking the truth.
You all are absolutely sickening.
Just to add that yes there was a white phosphorous explosion from both planes. Karosene (or jet fuel) doesn't make the extreme white flash that was observed. But, those high temps of fires actually lasted 6 weeks and some were burning under water. Large amounts of Nano-Thermite was discovered through-out the sites dust and metal. Nan-Thermite supplies its own oxygen and burns much higher than jet fuel. Jet fuel can not melt all the steel needed to collapse each of the whole buildings. No tall steel structure in history has ever colapsed due to fire. Jet fuel burns up to 900 degrees and Thermite at 2800 degrees. Steel melts around 2,500 degrees. You could see molten steel pouring out of the buildings before they fell. Nano-Thermite is a military grade excellerent only used in the demolition of steel structures. Its impossible to get if you are a regular citizen. Many explosions where heard and seen by video before and while the planes hit, to weaken the structure, before that completely obvious series of synchronized explosions. Just ask the 15 Israelis that were living on the 91st and 92nd floors for four years. So-called "Art Student" Like the other 200 Israeli "Art Students" that were arrested and quietly deported from all around the country (bomb and communication experts from the Israeli Military.) Found in Governmental Buildings all over the U.S. Some with Lists and home addresses of Government employees. Some showed up at their houses. Some with bridge schematics and Atomic Plant plans. Some quite creative "Art Student" huh? Some Israelis were caught driving a box truck full of tons of explosives. The day of the attacks with a mural on the side of the Manhatten Skyline with a plane hitting the Twin Towers and exploding. Can you believe the nerve of them? Others were caught heading to the Washington bridge. They were called the Dancing Israelis because a woman saw them set up a video camera on top of their van before the attacks and filmed the whole thing, while they happily danced on top of the van, giving each other high fives. The woman thought they were Arabs. How gullible we are to be fooled by our government and media which six companies of our rich own Bush, Chaney and Rumsfeld are probably still giving each other high fives to get away with this farce. Israel got what they wanted and our Government got what they wanted money and "A Police State" .I'm so disgusted!! And Cory a few lines down "You Go Man" and for the two girls, do your research.
Look into the flights themselves,two never boarded or departed,one boarded twice,another safley landed in Denver later that day?????
These are OFFICIAL passenger lists for ALL commentators who live under a rock to read.
there are no passenger lists at the links you provided? Who were the people on the planes that perished?
This was not a list. Additionally, on the site you provided, they spoke of the requests made in court for the video tapes from the hotel and gas station. When it was released, it showed an explosion, but no plane.
What evidence do you know of that it was done by terrorist? Let me rephrase that...since it was definitely done by terrorist.... What evidence do you know of that osama bin laden did it? Who funded osama bin laden.. sadam hussain... all qiada? And why?.. Do you know?... Maybe you're smarter than the rest of us but how does a boeing 757 which is 125' wide go through a concrete and steel wall (Pentagon) making a hole 16' wide without leaving behind any wreckage? ... people should start thinking for themselves and stop being media puppets... who controls the media?... you believe terrorist hijacked planes with box cutters? Seriously? ... if i demanded money from the girl teller at the bank with a box cutter...what do you think she would do?... probably laugh...and if there were other people in this bank do you think maybe they might attempt to stop me?.. would you just sit there?... I wouldn't.. alot of people wouldnt... get your facts straight.... don't put so much trust in the mainstream media... "We have only been defeated when we give up on God" Ronald Reagan
Well put. The Media is a joke.
Would termite not extinguish all evidence at all DNA, I believe so . The resn0n said my service says 'YES' however I believe from my experience in the military complex the phrases such as shut up, say nothing and m9st of all if u do 'Treason ' which would get you, DEAD! ASK ALL THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED IN A STRANGE WAY!
Your so right my friend.
For you to say you see no evidence of a conspiracy only shows that you have not done an earnest investigation. Have you watched the compilations of footage of WTC Building 7 imploding? It is wholly compelling. And why would they have to implode that building when they did such a good job fooling people with towers 1 & 2? They had to implode Bldg 7 because the drone headed for it (and transponding with the code of Flight 93, a reportedly hijacked airliner) was shot down in Pennsylvania that morning. If you take an attitude to make sense of what happened you end up with a Vice President and his operatives conducting some very tricky maneuvers to make us believe we were attacked by Muslims, and then making $billions in war profits.
And many of the thousands of players in the deception found ways to benefit: Some by listing themselves on one of the fake airplane manifests, then changing identity for a subsequent covert operation - so a family member gets the $1.8 million 911 victims settlement. Someone stole gold bullion from the basement of the WTC. Others bought PUT options for AA and United Airlines stocks.
The authors of the Patriot Act (which was prepared months in advance) got extra spying power.
911 was a huge free-for-all for insiders - mostly high-ranking Republicans. The huge investment made in preparation for the operation and huge expected profits in money and power were the compelling reasons Republicans resorted to strong-arm, extra-constitutional means to name George W Bush as president in Dec, 2000 - by illegally stopping a state vote recount with help from a stacked US Supreme Court. The whole 911 mess was to be played as a justified and patriotic war of revenge. But in a larger perspective that entire decade served as just another step in achieving tyranny over the citizens of the US and the world.
The shell game that transpired in the sky that morning bears an unmistakable resemblance to something called "Operation Northwoods" a CIA plan obtained through a FOIA release that detailed how the US military would fool Americans into believing Cubans had hijacked Airliners and flown them into landmark US buildings - all as pretext for invading Cuba. Real airliners would swap transponder codes mid-flight with military drone aircraft, making it look as if hundreds of Americans were killed on the airliners. Plus, drones can be specially prepared to do extra damage to buildings.
President Kennedy rejected "Northwoods" in 1961. The Bush clan, on the other hand, were some of the authors of "Northwoods".
It's a very nauseating over-arching reality, and no sane person wants it. But it is undeniable once you start putting the evidence together in earnest.
PS: The no-longer-visible family friend you mentioned is in all probability working for one of our many government security agencies under a different identity. (I suspect you know this and ALL the above.)
Spot on my friend.
I agree. Spot on. Great and concise telling of the truth Mata Hari.
Well. Conspiracies are easy to make up. The truth is sometimes harder.
Right, Josh - I had to research for many months to figure out what I relayed here. And there is more.
I am a commercial pilot for a major carrier. I have a close friend who is an AP who is employed by United at Chicago ORD. He stated very clearly that he worked on one of the United aircraft two weeks after the 9/11 event. He stated the N numbers on the tail were the same as were the logbooks used to record maintanance.
When he bought this to his supervisor's attention, he was told very sternly to remain silent or be fired. Many pilots and aircrew have strong doubts about the 911 events and have been company briefed to make no public statements.
Thank you, Leftseat! The evidence is clear that the planes that were used for the 9/11 United Flights 175 and 93 survived 9/11!
u fkn idiot.
Yes, all the commercial airliners used in 911 survived, as did all the passengers. The commercial planes traded transponder codes with military drones when they were in close proximity, fooling air traffic controllers. It happened pretty much exactly as described in the CIA plot from the late 1950's called "Operation Northwoods" which has since been released due to a FOIA request. President Kennedy rejected the proposal, which was to be used as pretext to invade Cuba. On the other hand, members of the Bush clan were some of the authors of both "Northwoods" and "911".
Bullshit. You're just some nutcase on the internet. There is no evidence that anything you say is true. Plus, there is no way this many people could be involved in a conspiracy, including even people that work for airlines. This has gone way beyond ridiculous. You people need to stop! If a person is going to be skeptical, they need to be skeptical of EVERYTHING, and that includes nutty conspiracy theories. Trust nothing and no one, whether it's the government or insane citizens with wild, unsubstantiated theories!
Government shills like yourself should through yourselves in front of on-coming traffic. Its hive-like, mind-controlled zombies like yourself that make informed, creative, thinkers that live outside of compartmentalized brain manipulation by the government-run media, social media, sports-worshipping, pop culture worshipping, Hollyweird Satanist Pedophilia culture, District of Columbia Satanic Pedophilia Shit Eating and Baby Murderer Worshipping assholes along with the rest of the idol-worshipping culture that makes independent thinkers froth at our mouths because your so totally mind-controlled its pathetic. You might as well become a MONARCH programmed sex-slave because your two flaps of the wind from being a zombie/robot/sex slave alreafu
What evidence do you have that osama bin laden did it?... so technically that makes you a conspiracy theorist. ... if you don't have evidence it's a theory... how does a 125 foot wide plane only leave a 16' wide hole genius?... quit believing everything you see on the mainstream media that's owned by the people or corporations responsible and try thinking for yourself.. ignorance is bliss tho right?... do you know who Larry Silverstien is?... Look him up.. he's the one that got the richest because of what happened on 9/11
You do know that over 10,000 people worked in connection with the Manhattan Project (A-Bomb 1945) don't you? The general public had no idea that the US had created such a weapon until it was used!
Nope ... I couldn't agree more !
Your protests are not going to deter these people. Try to understand - they have figured it out.
Flights 11 and 77 never departed on 911. There is no wheels off time recorded which is automatically done.
That leave 3 other planes to look at
Flight 93 and
Using numerology it's interesting to see this
Flight 1989 1+9+8+9=27=2+7=9
Flight 93 9+3=12
Flight 175 1+7+5=13 and
Flight 77 7+7=14
Flight 11 had 11 Crew leaving 81 (8+1=9) passengers total of 92 on board (9+2=11)
well George , You obviously have not done any research on this unbelievable tragidy have you ...
The real issue with 9/11 is that even though there appears to be inconsistencies in the information/data and also behaviours that do not make sense. But there has been no one compelling thing that casts sufficient doubt to create that 'wow' moment in peoples minds.
To make the statement that you made means you haven't even begun to scratch the surface on all the credible information that is available that contradicts the official narrative.
The compelling things are these:
1) WTC Building 7 was not hit by a plane, and had only smoldering fires, yet collapsed into its footprint at about 5 PM on 911. The videos of the collapse show a perfectly executed demolition. The reason no plane hit Bldg 7 is that the hardened drone that was sent to hit it crashed in Shanksville, PA that morning. Without the "excuse" of a plane hitting the bldg to make it fall, the perpetrators were at a loss as to what to do - they couldn't leave the building standing, as the planted explosives would be discovered. So like lease owner Larry Silverstein said: they "pulled it".
2) Steel-frame high rises do not fail due to fire or airplane hits - it has never happened, and never will. Look at videos of the 2009 Beijing Mandarin Oriental Hotel Fire. The building burns like a torch for 6 hours - totally engulfed in flames. So what happened to the steel?, didn't it fail and collapse? No, the European company that designed the building checked the steel - it was all intact and undamaged - they kept the charred steel in place and rebuilt the 45-story building on the original steel. Regular folks just don't understand how strong and heat resistant steel is. The story of the demise of the WTC 1,2 &7 is a fairy tale - utter nonsense. I have been a registered professional engineer in Colorado for 32 years.
Relating to WTC Building 7 is the newscast from BBC that announces the building has collapsed 20 MINUTES BEFORE IT REALLY DID!
Steel structure was coated in asbestos which was destined for removal at a spectacular cost, it also protects the steel from fire so we all should know by now that it would take a welder with a huge O2 Acetylene torch to cut through one of those huge inner columns built to last five live times. Has anyone seen the video interview of Dimitri Khalezov, the former Russian KGB who explained in detail that as the name implies, "Ground Zero" only applies to a Nuke site. Only something like this could have literally turned this steel into dust as was shown in an early video in slow motion giant girders turning into dust with the rest of the nano particles. Every video you can hear the rumble like an earthquake just before the 3 buildings fell. He says the bombs came from the sunken Russian sub that sunk off the US coast near the Carolina's. What turns steel to dust is the thing to ponder, Certainly not heat. The molten matter at the bottom of the buildings that could not be put out was radioactive and put the first responders to grave dangers. Google it yourself, easy.
I made 2 scale models of the twin towers from 3 Canadian 2 Liter milk cartons that have a base of 3 3/4" square. The 3 cartons were perfect to scale, a coincidence that represented the 3 sections of the real towers. Coincidence #2, the scale turned out to be 1/666. Coincidence #3, Canada went metric in 1970 when these towers were under construction.
Dave, getting sucked up into numerology will ruin any credibility you have. It's not that there is nothing to numerology. It's just that you will never figure out what it means, and more importantly, the world rejects it, and doesn't want to use it to discover "meaning" like you did here. I'm with them.
exactly---his first sentence had promise. everything that followed it killed that promise.Numerology only makes sense if the evil perps used numerology in the conception and execution of their nefarious plans.
My dad knew Lauren Grandcolas from high school. Lauren was one of the victims on 93. My uncle was also supposed to be a stand-by passenger on that flight, but didn't make it to the airport in time. You should be absolutely ashamed of yourself for posting such insensitive crap, crap that completely dishonors men and women that died that day, and the grieving loved ones they left behind.
Yes, the victims were real, but that is not evidence that justifies the official story as being true. Give your head a shake, it is a dishonor to those victims to not having a fair trial, and a real investigation where all the questions get real answers. Why were so many first responder eye witness accounts swept under the rug? Why was WTC7, a steel structure 130' taller than the great pyramid, collapsed from just office fire? I just don't buy it, and thousands of architects and engineers don't buy it either. Molten iron and eutectic steel, and no explanation...Pull it.
Your reaction is emotional, not rational. You can tell your dad that Lauren G. is safely working in a US intelligence agency under a new name. She may have had her name on the flight manifest just to collect insurance money - half of the 911 plane passenger families did take the average $1.8 million 911 victims settlement money. Interestingly, a whopping 98% of families of victims who worked in the towers took the settlement money. That difference in % collecting damages is very suspicious in itself.
Dave is right - lay people have little understanding of what it takes to bring down a high-rise steel building. Burning jet fuel and office contents come no where near the temperatures required to cause failure of steel columns and girders. Watch a compilation of Bldg 7 footage and see that it really was imploded. It was supposed to be hit by a remotely controlled drone that morning - one transponding with flight 93's ID, but interceptors took down that drone over Pennsylvania - because it was late taking off - because "Let's roll" hero(?) Todd Beamer was 45 minutes late boarding flight 93 that morning at Dulles. Being tasked with recording the fake cellphone calls was probably one of beamer's punishments for being late. The confusion created by Cheney's look-alike war games that morning did not last all day. By 9AM, F-16 pilots were beginning to ask, "Is this game or REAL?". The tardy drone headed for bldg 7 never made it to its target because the war game/reality confusion was over amongst interceptor pilots. Bldg 7 would have been "pulled" much earlier if the drone had been on time - providing the (albeit false) excuse, "A plane hit it". The 911 perpetrators waited for fires to be set in the building, so they would have a "it was on fire" excuse, but the blazes inside the building never got beyond smoldering because all the windows were intact, and oxygen was in short supply. At 5:20 PM, they finally hit the switch to start the implosion.
well we have 2 people talking leftseat and amanda it seems like somebody is lying
Be clear or shut up.
Thank you for saying what I would have said! The RETARDED author has NO "credible" proof.
You should be ashamed for being a completely mind-controlled slave to the government-run media or being a government shill selling your lies for profit.
If I believed the shit our governent informed us of or the government-run media told us, I'd do the world a favor and go to another country or kill myself for being a POS dumb-ass.
Yes and my uncle was killed working in the N-Tower when AA 11 crashed into his office. He died at his desk immediately.
My mom managed to escape from Tower Two after the first plane crashed. About five minutes later she emerged from the building.
She suspected terrorism as it was a clear day. I was at home with my grandma and grandpa. The television was on.
My dad was sick and didn't go to his office in Tower One.
How much is the GOP paying you !
Your too stupid to talk. It is people like you is why our government is like it is. Did you happen to know that Vietnam was a false flag operation. At the cost of over 50,000.00 American lives. The former Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara admitted that the August 2 USS Maddox attack happened with no Defense Department response, but the August 4 Gulf of Tonkin attack never happened. So what is 3000 lives to our government? We are nothing more than a commodity or a number to our government. Wake up!!!!!
Did you see the body? Then shut the fuck up. Your tired broke ass rhetoric is despicable.
The ones that died were in the Twin Towers. Your so controlled by mainstream media as to ready be a patheitic mind-controlled, hive-like minded, zombie, sex-slave individual that the government probably wont even have to use MONARCH PROGRAMMING, sex-kitten/mind-altering/DID(MPD), techniques against you because your already controlled.
Start thinking outside the box.
If your friend was on one of those four planes, she was there in order to fake her death and take up a new covert identity.
Was she Republican or very conservative, or pro war?
Did she work in the defense industry?
Did she work in the DC/Arlington area?
Did she have an unhappy marriage?
People in the know used those fake crashes for a number of reasons - mostly for covert reasons, but some for personal reasons.
Amanda, your dad's high school friend is in all probability working for the CIA, NSA, DIA, FBI, or a defense contractor under a new identity. Read what LeftSeat wrote above. I knew the planes of 911 landed safely (including "Let's roll" Flight 93) before seeing it here.
There are many reasons that people in the intelligence agencies fake their own deaths.
The "Let's roll" narrative was created because the hardened drone sent to hit WTC Building 7 either crashed or was shot down. This meant that there would be no fourth "Airliner attack", and the reportedly hijacked Flight 93 would simply be unaccounted for. So they whipped up the patriotic story, had the real people record the fake cellphone "calls", and voila!... you have a new American hero story to cover up the loss of the drone that was supposed to hit Building 7. Think about it.
If anything people are saying all these 4 flights all the people ,their luggage the wreckage does not add up because their was no real evidence of them after the crashes and if anything you should be looking into these anomilies and the reasons why all of this tragedy happened.I know it sounds to unimaginable there could be such a treacherous thing happen but the American Government and all its counterparts which sread far and wide are not doubt what so ever involved in this . Its really not that hard to connect the dots once you start researching and i am so sorry for your loss of your loved one
what about the producer, David Angell, of Frasier and his wife? They are somewhat famous and died in the first plane to hit the tower.
I believe that the only conspiracy is that the US government knew this would happen and let it happen so that we had an excuse to go to war in Iraq. It is possible that something was done to the towers prior to the impact so that they would implode and collapse -- I don't know what evidence is real for this. Also, I don't know about whether or not there was a real plane that hit the Pentagon. The evidence isn't readily available. If you want more information, google Susan Lindauer and follow the trail.
I agree. My uncle died when the first plane crashed into his office. He worked on the 96th floor of Tower One. He was murdered at his desk.
I'm sorry for your loss. I have no doubt that your uncle died; the question is...was it a passenger plane or a drone made to look like a passenger plane?
I'm friends with a relative of David Hyde Pierce who also told me, right after 9/11 that David Angell (who also worked on the legendary Cheers) was one of the passengers on that plane.
I also have a close family friend who's first cousin was one of the guys who rushed the cockpit. Real people died on this day, real people were permanently affected by this attack. I personally saw it with my own eyes. I understand questioning whether or not the US could have done more to stop the attack but it's truly a disgusting insult to insist that the planes didnt' really crash - i was an eye witness. Fuck you guys. Seriously. You don't care about the people affected, you only want to create bizarre conspiracies for your own sick amusement. Go fuck yourselves.
Yes. Believing our President could have stopped this is fine. However it is not okay to insist that there were "no" planes. My dad was in his office on floor 97 of the North Tower. He was killed as AA 11 ripped through the building.
We think the jet fuel burned him. A family friend was in Tower Two of the WTC. She died as UA 175 crashed into 2 WTC.
Don't waste your time arguing with these guys. You and I both know 2 planes struck the WTC. It's not my fault they don't accept the truth. Or yours either. When my unborn child is 4 or 5 years old, I will talk about 9/11. I want my kid to know the truth.
You were in the planes??? that hit the Twin Towers???
How come you didnt die??
Your a liar and a piece of shit. Either you work for the government or your controlled by misinformation communications groups, government-run media, because your naming off people that you didnt see die or else you would be dead too.
Your antics to frustrate the truth will come to no fruition because your either deceived or a liar.
You do know the plane in PA was shot down, rite? To jets was seen, no body's was found, coroners own words he said I'm not needed here, do the research before you lash out
Hey man, I know what you mean. My sister's first nephew's second cousin's mother brother was the pilot of flight 93, and he told me that he definitely flew the plane into the hole in Shanks ville, and he and the co-pilot managed to dig their way out and buried all of the plane evidence.
Holly.... you are wrong.... and if I were you I'd want justice for my father's death to the real terriosts of 9/11... Don't be a media puppet. .. who owns the media?... who's Larry Silverstien?... think for yourself... ... those were not commercial planes... buildings don't collapse like that from an office fire.. you can't fly a 125' wide plane into the pentagon only leaving a hole 16' wide... it's called laws of physics in other words it's impossible. .. do you get it?... get your facts or SHUT THE FUCK UP
Do u have one shred of evidence (body part) to prove they were on the plane? I suggest if u do u dig it up and have the DNA tested by a proven sorce if u can find one! Most likely your loved one was gased or shot like the Jewish victims of the war11 and reduced to sand in the dessert. Wake up u idiot. You saw the damned evidence on original footage of the attacks. Wake up and smell the real criminals they have u by your brains!
shut the fuck up crybaby.
I question everything including conspiracy theories since I live my life with a scientific outlook. I don't believe anything until I see compelling original and verifiable evidence supporting it because the media has blatantly lied to me in the past and I automatically distrust anything they say. I think it's clear that two planes hit the twin towers, the question is were they really Flts 11 and 175 or were they military drones, or some even suggest missiles but I find that hard to believe given all the eyewitness accounts. The David Angell issue is strange, if you google it you will find some very odd things about the whole story, including references to AA Flight 10 in a previous Frasier episode.
There is zero doubt that 9/11 was an inside job. Building 7 is enough to discredit the official version, but everywhere you look the inconsistencies are glaring.
You got it bro
Danielle, The things that hit the towers made plane-shaped-holes in the thick steel box columns that were the exterior of the towers. Aluminum airplanes can't do that. Whatever hit the towers had been reinforced in the nose and leading wing edges with heavy, strong metal to make the iconic holes which would ironically serve as "proof" to the unstudied that regular airliners had made the holes in the buildings. The plane-shaped holes were a powerful part of the visual myth - a clarifying prop. The real airliners swapped transponder codes with look-alike drones in the air while in close proximity. The planes went on to land safely at military bases. The drones went on to crash into the towers. But neither the drones, nor the fires they caused were a factor in the collapse of the buildings. No steel frame high-rise has ever collapsed due to fire or an airplane hit - in all of history. The buildings were brought down in a controlled demolition using military type explosives. I'm a licensed professional engineer for 32 years in Colorado, and I have investigated this subject personally.
That the famous producer's name is on the flight manifest means that he is involved in covert operations, and needed to change his identity. There is one other possibility - much worse, evil, in fact - that he was simply murdered, but I think most of the thousands of operatives that pulled off 911 were careful to not be personally responsible for additional deaths. So I don't think the involved flights were book-able by the public.
What isn't mentioned much is the traces of thermite found in the rubble and only one us gov lab make gov grade thermite.
Ever wonder why the steel was shipped out to China very quickly after the towers fell.
What also isn't shown are the cars with paint burned off, tires and all rubber on cars melted off. Some of these were a block or two from the towers.
Danielle, The "They let it happen" theory has no legs whatsoever. The destruction of the 3 WTC buildings involved very sophisticated materials and techniques, and was carried out with pinpoint accuracy. I'm a professional engineer with 30 years of experience. Nothing was left to chance here.
I was in NYC on 9/11. I saw carnage and pure panic. My husband watched the second plane hit the north tower from his job in nj. A friend of mines mother died in the wtc and my sisters best friends grandma died on flight 93 with her sister in law, both from my town. They were in their 70's and I promise you, she wouldn't have left her grandson or anyone in her family for any government cover up. My friends mother dying in the wtc prompted her younger son to commit suicide on the tenth anniversary. I am a mother of two and the threat of death for revealing my identity in a government conspiracy couldn't keep me from having my kids grow up motherless. You are not thinking rationally. The pain is real and so are those passengers. Please stop using hindsight to stretch truths and "create" ridiculous outcomes from common hiccups in day to day operations in any field, specifically government and airline hospitality. Let me ask you a few questions. Were you in NYC on 9/11? Do you know anyone that you say didn't die but was alleged to?
I was not in New York City on 9/11/01. As to your second question, I assert that no one died on passenger planes that day.
Could you put me I touch with anyone who believes they lost a spouse or a close relative on one of the alleged flights that day?
did you meet bush too on 9/11?
finally someone smart... People on those planes had families they would have never died for a government plan... They were real people with real normal life's...
I don't doubt there were real passengers who died on the hijacked planes. But what if...the Norad drills allowed THOSE planes to be flown out to sea or into a restricted airspace, only to be crashed or shot down, and then drones used to hit the buildings? Or what if all the passengers from all four planes were, unknown to the rest of us, all eventually put on the same plane and shot down over Pennsylvania? That certainly would explain the mysterious crash site in PA that nobody was allowed to see.
Sorry for your loss if indeed you did lose somone.
Now to the point.
Were you inside a plane that crashed into the Twin Towers??? No, you were not inside a plane that crashed into the Twin Towers otherwise you would be dead.
Your rationale and intellect leave a lot to be desired. You dont question and you werent at Ground Zero when it happened therefore your presumed idiocy of the events that took place that day, since you do not question and compartmentalize yojr small brain inside a box, are suspect at the very least and criminal, anyother stoolie pidgeon goverment shill piece of shit, at worst.
u saw carnage from the peeps in the bldgs..u ddnt see carnage from the flights bcuz there wasn't any passengers on those planes. your comment is basically irrelevent in this discussion
Wake up do u really think the government wouldn't kill off your loved ones after their plane was forced to land that day Wake up! Think a little deeper. For ur own good. It just might save ur life one day u gullible idiot. Honestly. .....with all due respect to ur certain loss. Oh! I get it ! When u see it on CNN you will believe it. Don't hold your breath. You brain washed idiot !
Is it possible that flight 11 and 175 were staged with terrorist so the people on the flights would call home and send word the planes had been hi jacked and then afterwards they were killed and the two drone planes then hit the towers
What do you really know about your sister's best friend's grandma and her(?) sister in law? Flight 93 landed at Cleveland and the passengers were deplaned and led into an old NASA facility. The "Let's roll" story was a clever cover-up made necessary by the downing of the drone that was intended to hit WTC Bldg 7. That drone had come very close to flight 93 in flight, and the two airplanes had swapped transponder codes, so it looked to air traffic control as if flight 93 had made a U-turn and was heading back east. But for some reason (perhaps the fact that the drone was transponding with the identity of a reported hijacked airplane) the drone was shot down. This threw a wrench into the 911 plan, as there now would be no specially prepared drone emitting Flight 93's ID to hit WTC Bldg 7.
So nothing hit Bldg 7, and as a result the whole 911 narrative invented by a neocon cabal with media help was broken. The perpetrators were forced to implode WTC Bldg 7 without the (actually lame) excuse: "An airplane hit it". The compilations of footage of Bldg 7's fall are convincing proof that 911 was a made-for-tv movie that went wrong. There is no possibility that the thing shot down over Shanksville, PA was an airliner with people on board. After its rendezvous with its replacement drone, transponding with a false ID, flight 93 landed safely at Cleveland's main airport.
So if the people you speak of are gone, there are several possibilities as to why, but simply being murdered by cabal operatives at a NASA facility in Cleveland is improbable. Missing people make the official story more believable. You can be sure that operatives and relatives of operatives were recruited to play the role of "911 casualty", and that the rewards were $big$. Big enough to justify and more than pay for completely rearranging ones life.
I agree completely with Amanda, Charles, and Autumn. Please just respect all who died on 9/11 and those who are still mourning after 13 years. It happened. It's real, whether you believe it or not isn't my problem. But there will always be those who know what happened. And we are still hurting.
Megan, did you know someone who you think died on 9/11?
Nobody has told dean of someone they know they're just talking crap
I just have to add a snarky comment, knowing it will be harshly replied to. The anti-abortionists are always holding up examples of what might have happened if a certain famous or successful person had been aborted. Well, if Barbara Bush had had at least ONE abortion, 9/11 probably wouldn't have occurred and think how many innocent people would be alive today. Including all the innocents her baby boy killed in IRAQ and Afghanistan, plus the thousands he let die in New Orleans. Works both ways.
What does abortion have to do with this?! Stop making irrelevant comments that make no sense please.
In referral to Holly later,
STFU. Although abortion of any homosapient beings is abhorrent, I cannot disagree with the logic that if George Bush Jr. or Dick Cheney had been aborted at birth then 9-11 wouldnt have happened.
lol so babs coulda stopped 9/11? lol..thats a good one lol. yeahrightwhatever
I don't think you are getting the point, these people are trying to find the actual truth for the people that lost their lives. They are not alive to ask questions or defend themselves. The truth is family members of people on those flights are not speaking to the public at all, where as people's families who died in the towers have spoken out adimately! A true patriot asks' questions....checks and balances. Even the president gets investigated. The 9/11 report is vastly incomplete. People are looking for any families who lost people on these flights so who will speak out and put these questions to rest.
Ok, so maybe there was a 'big plan' and conspiracy, but if there was passengers, who I totally believe were real and I think to say they didn't exist is completely ridiculous. And no they weren't paid off either, thats inssne! If it was planned out then it was a very tight group involved, plotters wouldn't have messed with keeping people alive and hoping that they stayed quiet. Nor would they have taken any unnecessary risks at the truth being revealed that would have undermined the whole thing. The buildings collapsing is the biggest mystery to me but I KNOW there were REAL people that were just taken somewhere and then all killed, obviously very unfortunately.
I want to say I feel enormous grief for all who died or lost someone!! I do however believe from watching numerous videos, time lines, facts involving airplane collisions, sky scrapers just falling and planes flying so fast at a low level, none of which resembled a passenger plane, and news the planes were seen elsewhere..that you are quite possibly right, the passengers were killed, but not in the planes, It was brought to my attention on an article that the planes landed in Cincinnati and were all de- boarded and sent to a building onsite that was closed as was the rest of the airport for a report they had received bomb threats. Can not confirm though as most everything on that day...my heart goes out to them all!
As was reported on the O'Reilly report, organizations like United way have not given any money at all even though they have collected $150 million in the name of the victims. Why? maybe because no proof of death (DNA). 911 was horrifying every one here feels bad about what happened but remember keep looking and don't give-up. Seek and You Find.
I once worked with someone whose brother was responsible for analyzing the wreckage of flight 93. He claimed the fuselage had clear indicactions that this wreckage, whatever it really was, had bullet holes from the outside in. It was shot down. He said there was no doubt this is what took it down. As for those that lost loved ones as passengers, I do believe they were killed to keep the whole thing "neat and tidy."
This is not the first time we have done something like this. During Vietnam, we bombed one of our ships to gain support for the war.
Another example was when Hitler set fire to his own party office to garner sympathy, while blaming the opposing party. And it won him the election!
Look at how much money changed hands because of 9/11. It just was too much of a coincidence for him to fall into that whole situation. One day we will look back on all of this and feel very betrayed by our government. It is all very Orwellian. "It is not important if we truly are or are not really at war. It is about keeping everyone in a state of fear.". George Orwell 1984.
You mention that the fire Hitler started was intended to get him re-elected and it did. One of the primary reasons for the government designing and executing 9/11 was to keep George W. Bush in power and it certainly did.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Dean, I think you're amazing the way you pursue truth. In this world we dont question enough and like mindless zombies we believe whatever we are told to believe. There are so many inconsistencies about the events of 9/11. I am totally convinced that there were no planes. Investigations of the so called live footage proves it to be a farce! Look it up yourself on You Tube people and see what aviation and building demolition experts have to say. The outcome will blow your mind! Keep seeking the truth Dean and please continue to share it. Thank you for your braveness. P.s. Funny how everyone seems to know either family of someone who died on 9/11 or them personally, but cant back it up with actual facts.
It seems to me that there is a lot of covering up and unknowns. But I will say if it was a government conspiracy then all you claiming there were planes and whining about respecting the dead are just as wrong. What about the other close to 3000 that lost their lives? If the government killed thousands that day they should have to answer for every last one. Including the people on those planes. It is clear that even experts have said they doubt the planes theory. No one is dishonoring the dead. Just trying to shed light and give answers to the doubters. If you want to claim dishonor then its on you for not wanting the absolute truth for your loved ones. Don't be blind or stupid to facts and proof.
The governent murdered over 2600+ on 9-11. Its not a conspiracy, its the plain damn truth. However, most people are so comsumed with their tv shows, their sports games, what Susie Homemaker is wearing today, what dumb-ass mind-controlled sex(MONARCH PROGRAMMING, MK-ULTRA) slave, Hollyweird Satanic Pedophiliac MK-ULTRA movie stars, Reality??(HAHA) stars, MTV Rock Star(MONARCH PROGRAMMED) slaves, and watching government-run news media that your kept in the box continuously.
You want to believe that your government isnt ran by a bunch of devil-worshipping, child molesting, pedophiliac sodomitic/lesbian deviant sycophants becuase that would entirely shock your small, pea-sized, mellon that you call a brain into utter shock.
Read: THE FRANKLIN COVER-UP, free downloadable pdf form.
Your so dense and shallow-minded puppets that you deserve to die or be used in their NWO.
Aaron, in your second paragraph you mention what type of people are running our government. I think it is interesting that the Wikileaks emails of John Podesta prove exactly what you had alleged in January. I was a "sheeple" for a long time and trust me, it is hard to reverse course. Maybe this election helped to open the eyes of those who don't believe that we are being fed our news in tidy daily doses.
I am not a conspiracy theorist but none of this makes sense. My father, recently deceased, was a career E.O.D. " Master Blaster" with v the U.S. Air Force. I know what he thought about the way those buildings came down, "They Had Help" Thermite!!!! On the main supporting structures.
He was an American Soldier who went where the nukes were when we went to Germany 2 times. He felt very betrayed by our government or who ever perpetrated this hoax on us.
There is a bigger picture at play with all this. We have become an apathetic and hedonistic society and as long as people get their pleasure fix they don't want to face the truth. It's too late anyway, the plan is in play already. His time is close.
I began by wanting to do a story on the businesses located in the World Trade Center. When I began my research I could not believe it. http://www.faithwriters.com/article-details.php?id=147221
After viewing YouTube videos reading 911 reports hearing from experts and interviews from news reports and the american presedent its clear there is a cover up . Don't tell some one to dismiss a claim if you have not researcherd it for your self seek the everdence look at all the facts for yourself.ask your self questions and it it doesn't may
Make since , ask the question research the question until it does.and ask the question no one is asking. WHY did this happened only then will you discover the truth the people involved want us to get lost in the HOW and WHO no one s asking why.look at why and you have the truth of 911
I worked for the National Weather Service at the time of 9/11. NWS has direct ties to the FAA at all times. We at NWS knew for certain that the entire eastern seaboard and northeast region of NORAD was ordered to STAND DOWN on the morning of 9/11. No tracking or reporting of anything. This is why.
To the people that are demanding anyone that is related to or knew someone that perished on 9/11 given them names of the family/friends that lost someone on the planes are ridiculous!!! There is absolutely no reason on Earth that you have the right to get the name of someone who lost a family member to a violent murder just so that you can contact them and either accuse them of lying, or being in on it. I did not know anyone personally who died on 9/11, but I HAVE talked to the sister of someone that perished on one of the planes. I did my own research to find her, and I can assure you that she did lose a family member. I encourage you to do your own research if you care so much, it took me all of 20 minutes to check passenger lists, and using Google I was able to find living family members. Which convinces me that none of you do half the research you claim to do. It's also funny how anyone who claims to know someone who knew someone from 911 is a liar, yet when someone who "worked for the airlines" backs up your stories you take it as evidence, haha. Again, call me a liar...but I have spoken with a family member of a person who died on one of the planes however I am not claiming I knew the person (or anyone) who died on 911...I encourage you all to do your research, and reach out to someone that lost someone that day and come at them from a point of compassion rather than spite and bitterness.
Yeah. I lost my cousin that day. He was working at his desk in his office on floor 96. AA 11 crashed into his office killing him immediately. The only comfort we feel is that he suffered no pain but died at once.
I'm sure he saw a large passenger plane approaching in his final moments. He was 20 years old when he died. We miss him so much. I was four years old when it happened. His body was never found.
BS! you said he was your uncle previously in this blog... your credibility just went out the window....
Wow! I thought you said it was your uncle, too, and you did! Guess we know who pays you to comment here...
Thank you. My dad lost his life as AA 11 crashed into 1 WTC. He was in his office working. We think that the jet fuel killed him.
When my unborn child is 4 or 5 years old, I will discuss 9/11. I want them to know what happened on that day. I'm a daughter of a Tower One victim.
P.S stop accusing Mary of lying. We are all allowed to make mistakes it's how we learn. She's not the one insisting there were no planes, is she?
Well, I do hope you find some solace; however, our government, Lil Georgie Jr. And Dick Cheney, along with many other people were duplicitous in the mass murderers commited on 9-11. It was a false flag attack and anyone that says otherwise is a liar, a government disinfo piece of shit stollie, or just another hive-minded zombie robot that has no discernment or intellect to go seek out the truth for themselves.
I suggest you do your homework little boy. You a liar or a government shill. The only thing that can be said about a loved one that may or may not have been on one of those flights is that they are gone, disappeared, and nothing more. Yes, they are probably dead but it wasnt because their plane hit the building. Even if the plane was remotely flown into the Twin Towers so what?
Our government was duplicitous in their murders!!!!!!
So shut the fuck up..
Go live under a rock in the middle of fucking nowhere if you think the government did it then go and tell me how much life sucks under US government oppression. Absolute twat.
The officially sanctioned conspiracy theory is the path of least resistance for most people.
How many passengers were allegedly identified by DNA match of remains on each flight?
Who has the test reports of the DNA analysis? I imagine there would be a write-up on what was found and what it was compared with.
How many people known to be in the twin towers never had any remains found? As I recall, it was over 1,000, and I find that suspicious especially if they were able to find remains of airline passengers.
First of all; English is not my native tongue.
If 9/11 was the most coordinated terrorist attacks in recorded mankind, why hijack four planes at that early hours when everybody knows there would be lesser people there? That make no sense!.
It "only" died about 3000 people.
It would propably died far more people if the supposed hijackers just crashed the planes on to the Manhattan ground.
Why should al-Quaeda for the first time ever try to kill as few people as the could have done?
Osama bin laden categorically denied all participation in 9/11. Why?
What i understand the talibans was ready to hand him (Osama) over if the US could show the evidence of his and al-Quaeda`s participation. Well, that did not happen as everbody know. Why not?
I absolutely dont Think that George W Bush had any knowledge about 9/11.
It was a co-operation between the American military, CIA and Mossad.
The government story was obviously ready to go within half an hour of the events of 911. There is evidence of the alleged aircraft involved still being around after that day, as well as at least nine alleged hijackers still being alive and well in the Middle East. There was ample evidence of high grade thermite used in WTC one and two. An office fire didn't bring down WTC seven, and a 757 didn't hit the pentagon nor a field in PA.
To say this shows disrespect for those killed is an error, as they were in fact killed by some evil plan. The search for what really happened, and who really laid those plans is a search for justice. When government fails, and has the cooperation of the media, the government is no longer acting in the best interest of the people and the media are no longer our watchdogs. The task of this search falls on those willing here on social media. Julie was a victim and my former boss at AON.
Megan thank you for saying what I would have said! The author and commentators have NO "credible" proof. The ONLY commentators who are right are Megan, Charles, Autumn and Amanda.
Everyone else is STUPID and should be ignored as they DONT know what they're talking about! Dean you CLEARLY live under a rock as do most of the posters.
I'm sure Dean and the others think it's far better to live under a rock than to go through life with their head buried in the sand.
These issues have nothing to do with respecting those that died. It has to do with honoring those that died and the American public by getting true answers to the obvious masquerade of the official conspiracy theory on 911.
You all need help. Everyone knows that 9/11 was a hoax to settle the US & Bush Family drug empire debt with Osama Bin Laden. Also, I have a relative who's worked for the Pentagon for 20 years and she said the day before 9/11, she & her colleagues were told not to come to work on 9/11. I know this because I work in Downtown, DC & on the day of 9/11, I heard what happened & tried calling my cousin's office at the Pentagon & no one answered any of the lines. l called her later on her cell phone & that's when she told me that she & her colleagues were already ordered to take that day off. Isn't that strange?
WRONG. It is ALL about respecting the innocent people who died. If you TRULY wanted to honor the dead which I STRONGLY doubt you do you would believe the official story that IS BACKED up by a EXTENSIVE investigation!!!
Any question that attempts to discover the truth isn't stupid.
You should get a life, a brain, or just do the world a favor and go live somewhere else and keep your idiocy to youself. You dont know shit and you dont research anything before adding your opinion.
If anyone should go live anywhere, you should be the one takkng your pathetic dumb, hive-minded, robot zombie ass into the Sahara because nobody will ever miss a pathetic POS like yourself.
Holly....I walked through aircraft parts at the Pentagon... Our people also found body parts from the aircraft so these genious comments from proclaimed experts are fools and dead wrong. Nobody in power thought 9-11 was going to go down the way it did even though there was data about many differant possible terrorist scenereos...including pilot training. Think about it...what does tge FBI do, close down commercal aviation? Nobody anticipated the complexify of that event. And for all his faults Bush responded brilliantly. Our current POTUS won't even identify current events as Islamic terrorism and thinks "Climate change" is our greatest threat./ There is your conspiracy theory res ipsa loquitur.
You didn't happen to take photos of those airplane parts did you???
Hah!.....No one expected anything like that?
Yet Norad was CONDUCTING A HIJACKING DRILL (out of the area of course).
Can't believe the sheer stupidity of you government worshipping shills....
??? Extensive investigation? there was no investigation
You can say what you want - but u can't disprove the facts:
(1) planes were not commercial aircraft - they were grey - no windows - no marking except for a blue round logo - had bottom fuselage attachment same as military planes (Fact) and even the engines are the same square shape as the military aircraft
(2) its absolutely conclusive that no plane hit the pentagon - was a missile - no photos or video from government shows its a cover up - no engine parts or any part of a plane... except for a small engine rotor the size of 1/3 of a mans body (missile engine) - also same for plane that smashed in the field
(3) 7hrs after the attack the government detonates building 7 (no damage) – takes weeks to charge and bring down a building – this is the single biggest sign of an inside job – yet its never investigated
Ive seen many documentaries on 911 from wifes and family of 911 victims wanting answers and not getting them, famous americans asking for the truth, independent american reporters, and engineers - everyone has the same story and questions - the volume of information is overwhelming
Not one company or group have done a complete extensive investigation / documentary - like a proper inquest to unravel the truth as a whole and deliver the smoking gun
Why has no one tracked down the living "hijackers" who are living today?
Why has no one credibly identified that the 911 plane victims were real? and validate this? interview their family? Do they really exist?
all planes are fitted with a ping beacon that sends information every hour to validate its communication systems is active - this is how they located Malaysia Airlines Flight 370s final locations before it went missing - why has no one investigated where the planes were using this?
As a conspiracy theory one needs to obtain enough information to prove it’s a conspiracy to prove the theory – people are more aware and the fact that 85% of americans believe it was a cover up shows that the movement is growing
But the American people need more proof – and further investigative work needs to happen – this will only happen with the help of the American public!
Its your country – and you need to fight for your country
it belongs to you.... the people.... not a few people in power
Bill...You state "absolutely conclusive" that no plane hit the Pentagon. You are a pathological liar. Or so gullible that you use taboids as your credible sources.. I was there pal. There was aircraft debris everywhere within the impact area. There were also remains. Just because the FBI didn't release all the evidence publicly does not make your conspiracy theory hold water. A lot of kids died on that plane and because the familes don't care to share their grief to the liberal press because of idiots like you and others who would seek their harm, doesnt mean they don't exist. Just do our nation a favor, be respectful and save your theory for your therapy sessions.
Jb, your phony assertions belie the true evidence of the day. Even a mainstream media reporter on scene who had witnessed other airplane crashes said on camera there is no evidence a plane crashed at the Pentagon. Maybe you can describe all the damage the building suffered along the length of its facade from the large wingspan making contact with the exterior walls...Not! because there is no photographic evidence of large wings contacting those walls. Or, maybe you can describe the large airliner engines that were never found? Or, maybe you can better describe the small puncture hole in the inner wall? Or, maybe you can go peddle your government shill nonsense to those ignorant enough to believe you have anything credible to say. BTW - aircraft debris doesn't = airliner debris. I too believe an aircraft hit the Pentagon, except it wasn't a passenger plane.
an extensive investigation requires a team of investigative reporters / journalists, producers, lawyers interviewing people on the scene, and experts in the field as well as law enforcement and people within the CIA etc - then create a complete documentary / report
if someone creates a kickstarter fund the money can be raised to make this happen - its unto you the american public
CIA....Mainstream Media....journalists. Anyone who believes anything the Government, or any of the fore-mentioned, tell you is naive. Do you really believe anything you hear on CNN? Wake up. You are sleeping.
The only entity that has disrespected the plane passengers has always been the conspirators and their accomplices who carried out this heinous crime. There is no doubt that the passengers were put on a single plane, sent to a vacated NASA Glen Research Center and then gassed. The communication from Betty Ong , flight attendant, mentioned Mace. What did they do with the bodies? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzrFOiH1WPU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdE1Cwnymzc
From a perspective of a person that takes no side and questions the conspiracy theories in all cases. I look at the facts and then I question the possible truth as to what really happened. I don’t just say that it was a conspiracy. I don’t even say that if it looks true then it is absolute truth but it seems to be closer to the truth.
Fact 1. BBC broadcast that the WTC 7 collapsed and I actually saw the original live cross and knew that while she was saying this that behind her was the WTC 7 that actually had not collapsed. I first thought they just got the number wrong but later the building did collapse. That got my attention! But is it really a conspiracy especially when the owner said to ‘Pull IT!’. The question was asked to a specialist in demolition if it was possible to PULL a building within the time frame and the response was that a team of men could rig it up to happen but it would be difficult if a fire was in the building. Is it not possible that the insurance company agreed to pay the cover because the owner was a really good customer but would only do it if it was looked as an accident. And is it not possible that if others knew of the plan then they would look at the insurance company in a negative way and their shares would drop or people would cancel their insurance and go to another company. Lets just say WTC 7 was imploded! It was not done by the same heat source you suggest used in the towers as it did not have the same attributes but only that of TNT or similar detonation. It is possible that it was only a opportunistic approach to what was happening.
Fact 2. This may lean towards the conspiracy theorists but I still question it!
Those who know extremist in any religion that believes in a god know that these people really believe that their god exist. Its not a yeh I believe in god or alla they really believe. These people read their Bible or Koran or whatever and the extremist look at the words as a literal belief! Its no secret that the extremist bomb and kill innocent people but it is because they believe the words that they read say it is ok to do so! In no way does the Koran say that it is ok to lie, not once! If the extremist lies then they are going against Alla and will face the consequence of living in Hell! SO when Osama Binladen says he did not do this then you can be assured he did not! 911 was the catalyst for the world attacking Osama and his people be it other levels of belief. Not one organisation claimed this event but they did in other attacks.
Fact 3. Flight 93. I like most see these people as hero’s but what really happened! Who were they trying to stop! I didnt see the original broadcast of the BBC saying that it was just a hole in the ground with bits of pieces lying around and no real plane engines or bodies were found. I didn’t see the original media release that says Rumfield had ordered the plane to be shot down in a later interview. I just heard that they were heros and the plane was stopped from hitting the white house. I did see the later stuff on other social media but what is the truth!! If that plane did not crash at that spot then where did it crash or where are the people and who did this! Rumfeld said he ordered it to be shot down and it was according to him so where is it! I am genially concerned about this one as I believe they were hero’s trying to stop something! Could anyone that had a friend or family member or colleague on this plane shed some light on the truth! Did they find any bodies or body parts? And I am so sorry for using it as a fact. Please forgive me.
Fact 4. Like most watching this tragedy unfold we saw the media reporting on the Pentagon. I am not sure if you got it live as I did but I guess a lot did. I was in a state of shock and did not question what had happened but later I was able to go back and view it with my TIVO. Those that know we did not get the graphics of something flying into the Pentagon until much later but we did get the media reports soon after the tragedy. The reporters interviewed a lady who got out and she said she did not see a plane as she exited the hole in the building and the reporter said that only small pieces of metal were lying on the ground. No engine or bodies. This was not something that I noticed at the time but I did save it on my TIVO. When I saw the reports on social media about flight 93 I then notices that the Pentigon had the same result. This does not mean to me that it was a conspiracy! This means that the pentagon was attacked and maybe the govt knew something that they did not want to share to the public and decided to offer other information!
Yes I might question what happened after the towers but just because information on those other sites don’t seem to add up does not mean absolutely the towers were done by our government! The truth is that we don’t know the absolute truth and some parts may not relate to others. Ok
Bush covered......the government was involved.
The FBI refuses to release 85 videos at and around the Pentagon - stating "for national security reasons".
THE GOVERNMENT WAS INVOLVED.
Dude the fact that the government knew about 911 attacks... (if twin towers was terrorist or USA government doesn't matter) ....the simple fact that they knew and flew a missile into their own pentagon shows conspiracy - Its that simple!
Who flew the missile into the Pentagon! I don't believe you know or have the proof! You might be right but where is the proof it was our Government! Yes I do know about what you are saying but I did not bring that up and I did not bring a lot more up that I may know more than you! I deal in the truth and to find the absolute truth or its just a theory! If you came to me as I am an attorney I would have to throw you out until you came to me with the absolute proof! Don't worry I would stand beside you as we hang those bastards but we have to get the absolute truth and conspiracy theory only pollutes the truth!
The truth is already polluted. The establishments (UK, USA, EU), have been in cahoots for a very long time creating one false flag after another to put more money in their pockets and power in their hands. Now they are trolling the internet injecting fraud into threads to confuse the masses even more. You, sir, sound like a troll. The only 'facts' you present are those which are reported by mainstream media, a conglomeration of establishment paid shills. Muslims are not the enemies. Osama Bin Laden, a former CIA agent, could have been part of the attack, but was definitely a target. If you're not on the side of this absolutely corrupt government, watch closely for the next false flag coming to a military state near you.
Please try to comprehend what I am saying and I am writing this slower for you to process this at your speed. An IQ is made up of mainly four components, Visual, special awareness, working memory and processing speed. Breaking that down is in essence is looking at the persons ability in receptive an expressive language, a component also known as matrix which deciphers pattern and the ability to be able to meet tasks at an appropriate speed. Yes there is more but when you bring the working memory into the equation with some of the other attributes and you test in the borderline range then it can reveal you having a language disability. You may be able to read something but in the process you are unable to comprehend correctly the fullness of the text. In these forums there is a need for the use of fluid reasoning to comprehend the inference and build on the discussion with a level of intellect if you want to be taken seriously.
Corruption exists at all levels, and manipulation for both good and evil will be around until the end and let me tell you this 911 conspiracy has grown strength because of the media and not because people are continually passing messages to each other personally. Yes I did see these facts through the media but to try and make a point I don’t just listen to the words I look at what is happening around the scene and what I already know to be the standardised norms in such situations and how different people see things differently. A young child sees the same media as a an adolescent and a person with an IQ of around 50 and a person with an IQ of 100 who has been raised on a sheep farm and a rocket scientists, engineer, fire marshal, pilot, and the list goes on. If I am standing beside an engineer with expertise in building structures and demolition while we are watching this tragedy unfold, who do you think I will listen to… the reporter or the person standing beside me when he can see something happening that he really knows about and I don’t!
There is so many facets of this tragedy that people from different intelligences and backgrounds understand some aspects of the situation that just don’t add up but all the other stuff happening around they don’t understand. I am one of those people and I say to myself that is not correct information being fed to the public but I don’t throw a blanket over everything and say it is all wrong and scream conspiracy.
When you go to the movies what you actually are seeing frame by frame pictures being sped up which make the visual see a story line and basically one truth, the one you are watching but in the 911 saga if you slow down the frames then you are seeing each frame as the truth and because there is thousands of frames each one projects their own truth different to the next one. When each profession comes to the table with their own truth in understanding what they know as a controversial opposition to the facts presented then still you do not get the whole picture that presents an absolute final truth but still only sections that are closer to the absolute.
Based on your words I encourage your input but I doubt you really have any real knowledge on this subject to offer and help it grow and move forward to a prosecution of the guilty if that is the actual case. Once all proof is gathered then we have the fight to be able to present it and head towards a trial. I believe at this stage it looks as though we would have more luck building a city on the moon! Lets assume that the conspiracy is real then you need to consider that the people in this world might just want to move forward and not face the possible outcomes and backlash from bringing down a government and learning that maybe their next door neighbour was part of this which killed their loved ones.
All those budding psychologists please don’t come back with how I glossed over the IQ stuff as I was only pulling points out of my head that was used to make a point to this person and I was not trying to write a thesis or present to other psychologists.
As someone who attended 7 wakes/funerals, seeing 9/11 as an inside job is ridiculous! Everyone that was on flight 11 from Boston in which we knew all had services. To say names were fake, or the passengers from this flight are alive is nonsensical!
Nick I am sorry sorry for your loss and that of your friends and their family members who died on that day. I want to say not once did I refer to the attack on the towers as fake. I was responding to another person for their conspiracy theory. I read my comment and I could understand that what you read might be taken as how you responded. It was actually a flow on effect from my original comment that you don’t make comments unless you know it to be the truth or fact. That if it is the absolute truth then conspiracy theory only causes confusion. That if it is the absolute truth that some parts associated with the attacks are corrupt then leave it to the ones who know the truth and stop speculating.
I know Susan Lindauer and she believes it was part terrorism and part government. I believe her up to a point but I argued that she should not include in her talks what other people tell her but only what she personally knows first hand. Let those other people come forward when they are ready and share their absolute first hand knowledge on the subject. She disagreed and if you see her talks you would know what I mean. In a court of law if I sit in the chair and say someone told me then the judge would stop me as it is only considered as here say and not submissible in court. My argument was not about what people are saying because they chose to believe but about seeking the facts and dealing in absolute first hand truth.
Now let me make one point that might be considered controversial. I had a family member go to the Vietnam war and he died what I was told a hero. We buried him with the full service and I was so proud of him yet upset to lose him. His friend went to war with him and years later his friend came and saw me because he felt he needed to tell me the truth as to what happened. He told me that as they were about to run forward towards the enemy my family member panicked and ran off to the side through the jungle. This person told me that my family member was screaming that he could not do this and then stood on a mine and was blown up. I got so upset about hearing this information that I wanted to kill the friend. He just ripped my heart out as he told me the truth. I threw him out and for years I never talked to him but eventually I did and eventually I had to accept the truth. I guess that’s why I am so adamant for absolute truth and not this conspiracy theory. I don’t want to hear that maybe our government was behind our people being murdered and that what some are saying our people were taken to another airport and murdered. As far as I am concerned it is bullshit! But if it is not then I want the people to come forth who know and prove it or just shut the fuck up!
Who said names were fake? The establishment has no conscience. They did indeed commit acts of terror throwing a false flag to get us to war with Iraq and Afghanistan. We are their pawns and their patsies. This isn't the first mass murder they've committed and it won't be the last. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM
Earthey you replied to the wrong person when you ask who said the names were fake? Your fluid reasoning has missed the mark. Firstly the expressive language of “fake” has a number of connotations attached to it! This starts at what I will term the statement of facts in an earlier comment and how flight 11 was not mentioned in those comments, in fact the twin towers were never mentioned in the comments. My use of the word “fake” is an inference to another comment made that I could understand Nick reading into one of my other comments as to me saying by another inference that I might be one of those people who believe the names were fake as they were not on the plane that hit the towers. Nick was sharing that he went to a number of those funerals and wakes where the loved ones were on flight 11 and he did not want to hear people referring to the deaths as being fake! Obviously Nick is the one who actually made not the inference but the direct statement. So in that point you need to reply to his comment.
Susan Lindauer is the first American whistle-blower that was charged with the patriot act. She was going to address Congress of what was happening but a few got to her before she could. If she got to congress before 911 what do you think would have happened! Addressing Congress would create a political debate and press secretaries would release something that maybe today might have seen terrorism stopped when it came to the 911 outcomes. Susan has faith in Congress but she does name names she does not have faith in! So who are you referring to as the establishment?
I digress at this point to make a controversial argument that maybe could bring America back into what could be considered a moral code. When you look back at history and some of the political and religious power entities and I refer also to our own construction of the constitution and bill of rights. Conservative movements would actually have what could be termed an “eldership”. These people would come together and discuss what the right course is and together they would present a fair and just application to the world. Neither person would align themselves with others to get something out of the group for their own gain and one person did not get to choose who could be part of the group and who could not. You had to meet a level of intelligence and strict moral code to even be considered. The President had to listen to wise counsel and was held accountable, binding to a morality. What happened though was eventually the President, church leaders, state employees and even local government leaders would align themselves with people who were yes men and would give powers to those leaders without questioning properly their motivations. It is a fine line but instead of the leaders choosing to follow the wisdom of good counsel they align themselves with people who want to gain something for their own division and so the leaders make up their own decision and follow that path. Just imagine having 8 old people who have no roll in CIA, FBI, Generals and stuff but just old people chosen from all elderships around the country for their moral codes and the CIA and all the other departments have to present to them what is happening. Then that wise counsel has the powers to talk to consulates and get their stories and then would sit around and discuss what is best with the president and then the president makes the call based on having faith in his eldership. The problem today is that the system is divided and the information is not transparent within that system for all to question and so you get a few running off and doing what they want and using a system that could be considered unconstitutional. The lines get so blurred that some are really getting away with criminal acts. Just like Judas getting a bag of coins to sell out Jesus our leaders in those government departments are getting bags of money to sell out our moral codes and do things that destroy what our forefathers put in place to protect us.
I argue for people to come forth, strong men and women like Susan Landauer who do have proof and for those Judases who received their bag of coins for turning a blind eye to allowing terrorism to create 911. I personally believe that some of our leaders in those government departments were involved to some extent and possibly only knew about their part and not the whole picture. I still hold faith in our Congress and believe if Susan was able to present to them we would not be mourning our loved ones due to 911.
And no Sir I am not a troll! I just don’t go off half-cocked with wild accusations! I want the truth and I want justice. If our President and his 2 sidekicks were involved then I want a public hanging for killing thousands of innocent people on our own shores. Extradite them to Iraq and let them face the same consequences as Sudam!
I want Bush and Cheney waterboarded
This should help clarify who was really behind 911.
It "clarifies" nothing fruitloops
People who resort to name calling have nothing worthwhile to contribute in exposing the official hoax story that has so many holes it makes Swiss cheese is envious.
As Craig commented above, "The officially sanctioned conspiracy theory is the path of least resistance for most people." If I had lost a relative there, I would want to get to the bottom of what really happened rather than some fantastic story of goat herders in an Afghanistan cave masterminding the crime of the century that managed to befuddle our entire multi-billion intelligence community.
I laugh at you Dean. As someone who lost her cousin on 9/11 I pity you. You obviously don't know what happened.
I refuse to buy your stupid books that are a insult to the families of the victims, including my own.
Shame on you all who know nothing about 9/11.
Excluding Holly, Amanda and Megan.
Your a fraud Mary... you said you lost your uncle "twice" on the 96th floor sitting at his desk at the beginning of this blog... "oops" you must have forgotten that because he is now your cousin.... I suspect this blog is being monitored and has officials making personal statements to help refute the facts and keep people in the dark....
Hon, which was it? Did you lose your cousin, your uncle, or both?
I believe the many hours of video online, I think its at least 40 hours of viewing. The sheer quantity of researchers, airline pilots, building construction experts, demolition experts, policemen at the scene. The list goes on. I respect the fireman's associastion still waiting for that government report.Here in England we want the reports on why we went to war with Iraq, Afghanistan. I believe Osma Bin Laden's professed non involvement in it all. His family close friends of Bush senior seem to have been behind discrediting him.
Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
You conspiracy theorists are absolutely sick.
This is sick-
As Craig commented above, "The officially sanctioned conspiracy theory is the path of least resistance for most people." If I had lost a relative there, I would want to get to the bottom of what really happened rather than some fantastic story of goat herders in an Afghanistan cave masterminding the crime of the century that managed to befuddle our entire multi-billion intelligence community.
Whose sick? People who seek the truth or dumb, un-intelligent, hive-like, robot zombie like yourself that believe the BS mainstream government-run news media has indoctrinated your shallow, pea-sized, brain to accept as the truth.
You dont question and you dont seek the truth.
Its sycophantic, mind-controlled, sports worshipping, pop culture worshipping, boob tube worshipping, hive-like, robot zombies such as yourself that are sick.
Youd rather believe some deviant, sodomites/lesbians, satan-worshipping, pedophiliac murderers in the government, mainstream media, and Hollweird than think outside the box and search for the truth yourself. Dont believe? Research MONARCH PROGRAMMING/MK-ULTRA of better yet read:
The Franklin Cover-Up, a non-fiction book written by formwr States Attorney General and SOG member John De Camp which you can download in free pdf form from the internet.
Quit running your trap. Youve never done any valid research because, if you did, youd know that the world has been ran by a SATANIC CABAL for thousands of years but your limited intellect cant comprehend the truth.
hello friends/ i belive the many hours of video his family close friends of bush senior semm end keep people in the dark
What is difficult to understand is the lack of relatives coming forth from those people who were supposedly killed on the planes. I would have thought there would have been many relatives suing the airlines and the government seeking recompense for dereliction of duty....Although, I believe MIchael H.Doran was a lawyer who died mysteriously after announcing he was prepared to represent victims' families against the government....Barry Jennings, who was trapped in Building 7, died mysteriously. He said there were massive explosives going off during the day and he walked over dead bodies in that building....Beverly Eckert was an activist who had been offered money to keep quiet but she wanted more and she died in a mysterious plane crash....Paul Smith supposedly piloted the helicopter from which John Del Giorno took the shot of the plane that hit the North Tower. Paul Smith was run over by a car and John Del Giorno has gone incommunicado....Politician call-girl madam Deborah Palfrey was about to drop a massive bomb on Washington and declared on a number of public broadcasts that she had no intention of committing suicide....she died before she could spill the beans. The official verdict was she committed suicide by hanging herself in her mother's shed....The New World Order is coming soon!
As far as I'm concerned, the conspiracy theorists are the ones who believe that these planes were crashed by terrorists lol. You have to be a complete idiot to believe that. No plane parts anywhere afterwards. A full admission by Clinton and W regarding building 7 and the "bombing" at the Pentagon. Hmmmm ok well since some of the planes were seen grounded at airports later that day, the "terrorists" are still seen regularly abroad, no one ever saw the first plane hit the tower... somehow that only showed up on tv days later... hmmmmm ok and everyone can clearly see the explosion before the second tower was hit on video. Most names of passengers don't exist... thermite sparks flying in a geometric pattern for a full hour before the buildings perfectly collapsed like a controlled explosion. Wake up! Yea I thought is was real too at first and yea I thought Rosie and Whoopi were nuts too at first. Sorry folks but Shanksville was not real... we've seen Lockerbie and other crashes into fields. There were plane parts! None ever found anywhere at any site until a wheel magically appers months later in NYC a few blocks away lmao! Lest we forget the Gulf of Tonkin and so many other false flags in our history? The elites need war... banks lend government money, pocket intrest, hide money... Zionists win again. Over and over and over and over throughout American and Isreali history. So yea it didn't happen like you thought. Sorry to disappoint you but you are an idiot if you still believe it was real after all of these years. But anyway, we have greater concerns now like ousting the idiot leaders of Europe and America and taking back our lives again. Can't believe euro government is actually sensitive to Sharia Law... are you on crack??? Racism is horrible, all inhumane acts are dispicable for sure. Antisemitism is horrible, and so on.... for some reason these euro leaders seem to think they are being bigots if they punish immigrant crime against women and others... they now protect immigrant crooks and murderers in order to prevent nationalists from giving them justice. Whattttttttt? Holy smokes what the hell is going on in our world today???? Wake up now before it's too late people! Support the constitution, and support all good people in this world regardless of religion, race or preferences. And fight hard against what we know is bad... don't think it can't happen to you. Big government must stop now! Republicans and Democrats both suck! No one is here to hold our hands anymore... they want us dumb, stupid and obedient. Wake up! Bless all
Go live under a rock then you twat, then tell us how bad your life is under government oppression.
I do not consider myself a conspiracy theorist, and I am as patriotic as one can possibly could be, always supporting our troops, and confident that our military has the best capabilities in the world. My heart goes out to the families, victims, and all resuce and civilian people involved in 9/11. When one looks at our governmental history, being born and initialized by the industrialist society, playing a major role in decisions that have taken place from WWII, Vietnam, the 1960's race riots and assassinations of influential leaders. In all of these areas, anyone person, or group that challenged these wealthy people...that were politicians or huge political supporters were simply eliminated. In fact, some of these wealthy banking companies still exist today as mergers and parent companies, such as Morgan Stanley....and provide close to 1 million dollars in campaign funds to one of our current candidates running for Presidential office in November.
Instead of getting caught up in confusing conspiracy possibilities, what needs to be examined are the questions that our government will not answer, beit from the families of the victims and the American general public, including professional and respected engineers, pilots, and ex- military personelI. It is a fact, that there is so much missing from the Official 9/11 report, that it should make any American question the legitimacy of the official report/investigation.
The incidents of 9/11 reek of a clandestine, Northwoods style operation, (originally brought to light during FDR's administration. Great leaders like General S. Butler, President Eisenhower and President Kennedy were aware of these corrupt people that influenced government). Instead of dreaming up conspiracy theories, our time is better spend investigating which CRIMINALS in our government affiliated with private sector companies benefited and profited the most, from such a tragic event at the expense of American civilian and military lives. As Americans, we need to demand the facts, and our government needs to show US the American people proof and to explain the inconsistencies in the investigation. You are not a conspiracy theorist for asking questions to the unanswered skewed lack of details.
Does anyone know of one real person who had a real l loved one who was an actual passenger on one of the planes on 9/11? There is no doubt people died on the ground in the pentagon and at the World Trade Center... But can anyone claim to know a real passenger? Why won't the government release any security footage of passengers boarding the planes? Why did all four pilots fail to punch in the highjacked code? ALL FOUR?! why would an experienced pilot on AA 77 that allegedly flew into the Pentagon allow himself to be herded to the back of the plane? This story, which came from a fabricated phone call from Barbara Olson is an insult to
That pilot. The FBI admitted olson's call was never made.
Yes, I do know someone who died on Flight 175. Her name was Lynn Goodchild and she was the daughter of my parents' very close friends of 40+ years, Bill and Ellen. Bill was a groomsman in my parents' wedding, so this is not some "cousin's neighbor's hairstylist's boyfriend" type of connection. Lynn, who was my age, was traveling with her boyfriend Shawn Nassaney. I assure you she was a real person. About a year after 9/11, her parents came to Atlanta to visit my parents. I cried with them while watching a tribute video that Lynn's friends had made in her honor to the song "I hope you dance." I still can't hear that song without crying. She was young, beautiful, smart, and REAL and her parents and brother are beyond devastated to this day. My parents wear bracelets with her name and flight engraved as a rememberance. While I can't say if the theory of those passengers being killed elsewhere could be true, I CAN attest to those passengers being REAL, and being gone. Google their names and you can read multiple stories about Lynn and Shawn.
Laura, In response to your post. There is NO doubt that the victims are real, innocent people that were On the ground as well as on an airliner/s. There are many theories "out there" of how the events of 9-11 played out. Whether the passengers were on 4 planes, or loaded onto 1 plane, or off loaded at another location and murdered. The point is, innocent Americans WERE MURDERED that day because of evil people. It should trouble every American, that this occurred with so many unanswered questions. The only way that our military could "stand down" to continually behind the catastophic timeline of events, was through higher orders or diversionary tactics, and compartmenization. It burns me thinking that innocent lives and military personell have defended our flag, freedom and constitution for wealthy selfish theves with their own personel agendas. The original government story is the conspirathy theory, not true Americans asking questions for clarification.
I'm very sorry to say this Laura. No disrespect intended. But, any so called "Real" passengers that are reported on those planes were either killed or payed off. One man had called his mother explaining that it was her son. But he refered to himself with his first and last name. I don't know anyone that does that unless their reading a script. Hi Mom, this is Joe Smoe. Who does that? Like the cab driver at the Pentgon who had said a light pole fell on his windshield as the so called "plane" flew over head. When interviewed by a private citizen he sloppily tried to keep his story straight on camera. But, later when the camera was on him from the backseat of the car and he didn't know it, he admitted that the whole thing was staged before hand and also let it slip his wife worked for the FBI. I could go on and on with all my research but I won't at this time, cause it only makes me sick.
Firstly I wanted to say I understand how some of the general public feel when hearing various conflicting stories. I did not lose anyone myself, but the thought of these things happening due to the actions of our own government is almost too horrible to be true.
I would like so much to believe the official story, because the alternative suggests the governments behavior is right up there with Hitler, and this is what is supposed to be a democracy. it means we may as well not have won world war 2 at all, given the alternatives to the official story. so I keep hoping the official version is true, but there are toooooo many inconsistencies
I'm not going to say much about buildings and planes etc.
Just a simple observation that does not ring true. It may not be proof of the mechanism of events, but it gives me a strong feeling the perpetrators were definitely the government, the so called leader(s) of the free world, which is very disturbing if it is indeed true.
out of all the stuff I have seen and heard, this, for me, is the most convincing that suggests the US government, specifically W Bush, is definitely guilty:
8.46am, first plane hits
9.03 am, second plane hits
9.31am, George W gives short speech from florida about terrorism
when first plane hits then there could be lots of speculation about the cause
when second plane hits, then obviously terrorism is more likely, but there are more pressing issues initially, like how to stem the damage and try to reduce human casualties, identify furher threats, and make the area safe, as with any disaster
28 minutes after the second plane hits, George W is already talking about finding the terrorist perpetrators and bringing them to justice....
no mention of any concerns about loss of life, about the immediate threat to other civilians who are still alive and about to die as the towers come down, and there is no talk of any measures that would be required to make the situation safe for the city and the country
These are the sort of things I would expect from a president, to reassure the public that the government is doing everything it can to keep them safe in the first instance.
speculation about the cause should come later, once a little more info has come to hand, and after the immediate safety issues are addressed, and people have stopped dying
later on that day, maybe its appropriate to talk about a stance against terrorism, once the immediate catastrophe and logistics of the disaster have been addressed. after all isn't that what anyone would want to hear 28 minutes after an unexplained catastrophic event? that they and their family will be made safe by the full deployment of the full resources of the government, and to know their leader is doing everything possible to mitigate the present danger? and save what lives are left?
after the initial response to mitigate and prevent further people from dying, then later on it would be natural to talk about tracking down terrorists and bringing them to justice, once the airspace and the people are made safe
-- but wouldn't this come later in the day, or the next day when lives are no longer being lost??
I find that a president talking about justice for the perpetrators, just 28 minutes after the first moment that brings up possible terrorist involvement, is a bit strange, especially with no mention of the immediate humanitarian issues at stake from the explosions witnessed
the timing of W bush's comments, and the lack of reassuring comments and mitigating actions early on, with such an early focus on retaliation and justice, suggests another agenda from his side
v soft evidence, I know, but for me this is the clincher.
I'm not an engineer or a relative of a deceased victim, but I think I can read peoples behavior pretty well, having done several medical rotations in psychiatry and psychology,
that one clip of George Ws first comments really feels unnatural and pre-meditated
despite 28 minutes or less to process what is going on before speaking, he is already pointing towards retaliation
people are still jumping out of the towers to their death, and he makes no mention of the clear and present danger to further lives from the immediate damage from the first two planes
does this ring false with anyone else?
god help the "free world"
I sometimes like to daydream that 9/11 was a definite Islamic extremist action, and the extra paranoia across the world after 9/11 is helping keep us safe
but the pattern of Islamic terrorism outside the middle east seems to be more sporadic and less coordinated, -- it is usually a single muslim extremist with a mental illness who goes crazy and kills a small number of people
this was such a well coordinated and sophisticated event, any world leader would be in shock in the first 28 minutes
they would likely have other questions before deciding on retaliation
George W, 28 minutes after the second plane crash, already wants to go to war, and seems l
Yes fyi you are exactly right. Also look up videos of what he was doing at the time of the attacks -- he was getting school children to recite disturbing verses of My Pet Goat.
Look up the Dancing Israeli's, they were there recording the incident and celebrating when the planes hit. Later, back home, they were interviewed on TV and asked why they were there. They admitted they were there to "record the event". Hmm, how did they know it was going to happen?
Almost all of the Muslim terror attacks since have been false flag hoaxes. The elites are prepping the western world to incite anti-Muslim sentiments and fear, to justify their attack on the Muslim world after the Big One hits, the final false flag terror attack which will be of a magnitude greater than 9/11. They have to get public anti-Muslim hatred riled up in order to justify their future attacks.
The best videos on Youtube showing how the attacks since 9/11 are blatantly hoaxes (real people died in 9/11 obviously but it's questionable if anyone has died in the "terrorist attack" hoaxes since) are being taken down and the posters banned; we are entering a new era of censorship. We are left with mostly crackpot videos on Youtube but there are still some good ones left.
Now that you have opened yourself up you have a long road of discovery ahead of you; be prepared to change your world view. The world isn't what you are being told it is by the media.
Look up "Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth"
i was kidnapped off the street by soon to be president obama. i was forced to watch the whole event in a blacked out minivan 4 blocks away. i was later trained as a cia assassin, i could kill a man as quick as i looked at him. i can honestly say it happened.
And I can honestly say you're full of shit.
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