I enjoyed reading your blog, thank you.
....Right, and Oswald was at the contols
Yea, the victims never existed. And a life-long family friend was just a figment of our imaginations--who called from the airport before leaving on a flight that never existed. In order to believe any of this, you have to: 1)believe that an aircraft flying in excess of 500 mph into a structure and then suffering fuel explosions and fire would leave "serial number" evidence behind, 2) that "DNA evidence" was something that, in 2001, was commonly gathered and investigated by anything other than a government entity or at a government request, 3) That all the administrative paperwork for all the involved airlines at all the involved airports were all in error, including insurance records for people who purchased flight insurance prior to their flights, and 4) that the thousands of friends, families, and coworkers of the victims are actually part of the greatest conspiracy ever conceived, let alone perpetrated.
Of course, write whatever you want. But I haven't seen a shred of evidence that holds up to the light of day or the scales of reason that even hints at some conspiracy that took our dear friend from us.
Thank you for your reply. Perhaps you are willing to answer a few questions before I respond to the rest of what you say:
1) To what "life-long family friend" do you refer?
2) What flight do you say they were on?
Charles your argument doesn't hold water with me. I inspect the rotating hardwear in Aircraft Engines for GE. These parts are made out of forged Inconel, Rene', and Titanium steels. We use CNC machines and carbide tipped tooling because they are very hard metals to machine. We dot peen mark the part number and serial number along with other identifying numbers on every part as required by the FAA. While at full throttle these parts glow orange because of the heat that's generated in a jet engine. And what you're saying is that the fire got so hot it melted our engine parts that weigh several hundred pounds beyond recognition, yet we found DNA? No disrespect but that is the most ignorant claim I have ever heard and I've heard it one too many times unfortunately. That is why this whole 9/11 ordeal stinks to high heaven and makes it obvious to me, an aircraft engines core parts regardless if they're manufactured by RR,PW,or GE, simply do not burn up into thin air. I have yet seen any evidence ...of any engine components.... at any crash site what's so ever . The Government is insulting my intelligence by claiming planes crashed yet produce little to no wreckage , especially not a significant amount of engine wreckage.
no one was on those planes the were USA military air force planes. they were gray with no windows and had a pod underneath the plane. your buddy got paid out bro. look at the footage that came back from the FBI. why was the rubble burning for 2 week at 2800 degrees. because the pod underneath the plane had white phosphorous in it and you can see the spark before impact. your buddy may be gone or not buT you should yell at your fucking government and not the people seeking the truth.
You all are absolutely sickening.
These are OFFICIAL passenger lists for ALL commentators who live under a rock to read.
there are no passenger lists at the links you provided? Who were the people on the planes that perished?
I am a commercial pilot for a major carrier. I have a close friend who is an AP who is employed by United at Chicago ORD. He stated very clearly that he worked on one of the United aircraft two weeks after the 9/11 event. He stated the N numbers on the tail were the same as were the logbooks used to record maintanance.
When he bought this to his supervisor's attention, he was told very sternly to remain silent or be fired. Many pilots and aircrew have strong doubts about the 911 events and have been company briefed to make no public statements.
Thank you, Leftseat! The evidence is clear that the planes that were used for the 9/11 United Flights 175 and 93 survived 9/11!
The real issue with 9/11 is that even though there appears to be inconsistencies in the information/data and also behaviours that do not make sense. But there has been no one compelling thing that casts sufficient doubt to create that 'wow' moment in peoples minds.
I made 2 scale models of the twin towers from 3 Canadian 2 Liter milk cartons that have a base of 3 3/4" square. The 3 cartons were perfect to scale, a coincidence that represented the 3 sections of the real towers. Coincidence #2, the scale turned out to be 1/666. Coincidence #3, Canada went metric in 1970 when these towers were under construction.
My dad knew Lauren Grandcolas from high school. Lauren was one of the victims on 93. My uncle was also supposed to be a stand-by passenger on that flight, but didn't make it to the airport in time. You should be absolutely ashamed of yourself for posting such insensitive crap, crap that completely dishonors men and women that died that day, and the grieving loved ones they left behind.
Yes, the victims were real, but that is not evidence that justifies the official story as being true. Give your head a shake, it is a dishonor to those victims to not having a fair trial, and a real investigation where all the questions get real answers. Why were so many first responder eye witness accounts swept under the rug? Why was WTC7, a steel structure 130' taller than the great pyramid, collapsed from just office fire? I just don't buy it, and thousands of architects and engineers don't buy it either. Molten iron and eutectic steel, and no explanation...Pull it.
well we have 2 people talking leftseat and amanda it seems like somebody is lying
Thank you for saying what I would have said! The RETARDED author has NO "credible" proof.
Yes and my uncle was killed working in the N-Tower when AA 11 crashed into his office. He died at his desk immediately.
My mom managed to escape from Tower Two after the first plane crashed. About five minutes later she emerged from the building.
She suspected terrorism as it was a clear day. I was at home with my grandma and grandpa. The television was on.
My dad was sick and didn't go to his office in Tower One.
How much is the GOP paying you !
Your too stupid to talk. It is people like you is why our government is like it is. Did you happen to know that Vietnam was a false flag operation. At the cost of over 50,000.00 American lives. The former Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara admitted that the August 2 USS Maddox attack happened with no Defense Department response, but the August 4 Gulf of Tonkin attack never happened. So what is 3000 lives to our government? We are nothing more than a commodity or a number to our government. Wake up!!!!!
what about the producer, David Angell, of Frasier and his wife? They are somewhat famous and died in the first plane to hit the tower.
I believe that the only conspiracy is that the US government knew this would happen and let it happen so that we had an excuse to go to war in Iraq. It is possible that something was done to the towers prior to the impact so that they would implode and collapse -- I don't know what evidence is real for this. Also, I don't know about whether or not there was a real plane that hit the Pentagon. The evidence isn't readily available. If you want more information, google Susan Lindauer and follow the trail.
I agree. My uncle died when the first plane crashed into his office. He worked on the 96th floor of Tower One. He was murdered at his desk.
I'm sorry for your loss. I have no doubt that your uncle died; the question is...was it a passenger plane or a drone made to look like a passenger plane?
I'm friends with a relative of David Hyde Pierce who also told me, right after 9/11 that David Angell (who also worked on the legendary Cheers) was one of the passengers on that plane.
I also have a close family friend who's first cousin was one of the guys who rushed the cockpit. Real people died on this day, real people were permanently affected by this attack. I personally saw it with my own eyes. I understand questioning whether or not the US could have done more to stop the attack but it's truly a disgusting insult to insist that the planes didnt' really crash - i was an eye witness. Fuck you guys. Seriously. You don't care about the people affected, you only want to create bizarre conspiracies for your own sick amusement. Go fuck yourselves.
Yes. Believing our President could have stopped this is fine. However it is not okay to insist that there were "no" planes. My dad was in his office on floor 97 of the North Tower. He was killed as AA 11 ripped through the building.
We think the jet fuel burned him. A family friend was in Tower Two of the WTC. She died as UA 175 crashed into 2 WTC.
Don't waste your time arguing with these guys. You and I both know 2 planes struck the WTC. It's not my fault they don't accept the truth. Or yours either. When my unborn child is 4 or 5 years old, I will talk about 9/11. I want my kid to know the truth.
I was in NYC on 9/11. I saw carnage and pure panic. My husband watched the second plane hit the north tower from his job in nj. A friend of mines mother died in the wtc and my sisters best friends grandma died on flight 93 with her sister in law, both from my town. They were in their 70's and I promise you, she wouldn't have left her grandson or anyone in her family for any government cover up. My friends mother dying in the wtc prompted her younger son to commit suicide on the tenth anniversary. I am a mother of two and the threat of death for revealing my identity in a government conspiracy couldn't keep me from having my kids grow up motherless. You are not thinking rationally. The pain is real and so are those passengers. Please stop using hindsight to stretch truths and "create" ridiculous outcomes from common hiccups in day to day operations in any field, specifically government and airline hospitality. Let me ask you a few questions. Were you in NYC on 9/11? Do you know anyone that you say didn't die but was alleged to?
I was not in New York City on 9/11/01. As to your second question, I assert that no one died on passenger planes that day.
Could you put me I touch with anyone who believes they lost a spouse or a close relative on one of the alleged flights that day?
did you meet bush too on 9/11?
finally someone smart... People on those planes had families they would have never died for a government plan... They were real people with real normal life's...
I don't doubt there were real passengers who died on the hijacked planes. But what if...the Norad drills allowed THOSE planes to be flown out to sea or into a restricted airspace, only to be crashed or shot down, and then drones used to hit the buildings? Or what if all the passengers from all four planes were, unknown to the rest of us, all eventually put on the same plane and shot down over Pennsylvania? That certainly would explain the mysterious crash site in PA that nobody was allowed to see.
I agree completely with Amanda, Charles, and Autumn. Please just respect all who died on 9/11 and those who are still mourning after 13 years. It happened. It's real, whether you believe it or not isn't my problem. But there will always be those who know what happened. And we are still hurting.
Megan, did you know someone who you think died on 9/11?
Nobody has told dean of someone they know they're just talking crap
I just have to add a snarky comment, knowing it will be harshly replied to. The anti-abortionists are always holding up examples of what might have happened if a certain famous or successful person had been aborted. Well, if Barbara Bush had had at least ONE abortion, 9/11 probably wouldn't have occurred and think how many innocent people would be alive today. Including all the innocents her baby boy killed in IRAQ and Afghanistan, plus the thousands he let die in New Orleans. Works both ways.
What does abortion have to do with this?! Stop making irrelevant comments that make no sense please.
I don't think you are getting the point, these people are trying to find the actual truth for the people that lost their lives. They are not alive to ask questions or defend themselves. The truth is family members of people on those flights are not speaking to the public at all, where as people's families who died in the towers have spoken out adimately! A true patriot asks' questions....checks and balances. Even the president gets investigated. The 9/11 report is vastly incomplete. People are looking for any families who lost people on these flights so who will speak out and put these questions to rest.
Ok, so maybe there was a 'big plan' and conspiracy, but if there was passengers, who I totally believe were real and I think to say they didn't exist is completely ridiculous. And no they weren't paid off either, thats inssne! If it was planned out then it was a very tight group involved, plotters wouldn't have messed with keeping people alive and hoping that they stayed quiet. Nor would they have taken any unnecessary risks at the truth being revealed that would have undermined the whole thing. The buildings collapsing is the biggest mystery to me but I KNOW there were REAL people that were just taken somewhere and then all killed, obviously very unfortunately.
I want to say I feel enormous grief for all who died or lost someone!! I do however believe from watching numerous videos, time lines, facts involving airplane collisions, sky scrapers just falling and planes flying so fast at a low level, none of which resembled a passenger plane, and news the planes were seen elsewhere..that you are quite possibly right, the passengers were killed, but not in the planes, It was brought to my attention on an article that the planes landed in Cincinnati and were all de- boarded and sent to a building onsite that was closed as was the rest of the airport for a report they had received bomb threats. Can not confirm though as most everything on that day...my heart goes out to them all!
As was reported on the O'Reilly report, organizations like United way have not given any money at all even though they have collected $150 million in the name of the victims. Why? maybe because no proof of death (DNA). 911 was horrifying every one here feels bad about what happened but remember keep looking and don't give-up. Seek and You Find.
I once worked with someone whose brother was responsible for analyzing the wreckage of flight 93. He claimed the fuselage had clear indicactions that this wreckage, whatever it really was, had bullet holes from the outside in. It was shot down. He said there was no doubt this is what took it down. As for those that lost loved ones as passengers, I do believe they were killed to keep the whole thing "neat and tidy."
This is not the first time we have done something like this. During Vietnam, we bombed one of our ships to gain support for the war.
Another example was when Hitler set fire to his own party office to garner sympathy, while blaming the opposing party. And it won him the election!
Look at how much money changed hands because of 9/11. It just was too much of a coincidence for him to fall into that whole situation. One day we will look back on all of this and feel very betrayed by our government. It is all very Orwellian. "It is not important if we truly are or are not really at war. It is about keeping everyone in a state of fear.". George Orwell 1984.
You mention that the fire Hitler started was intended to get him re-elected and it did. One of the primary reasons for the government designing and executing 9/11 was to keep George W. Bush in power and it certainly did.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Dean, I think you're amazing the way you pursue truth. In this world we dont question enough and like mindless zombies we believe whatever we are told to believe. There are so many inconsistencies about the events of 9/11. I am totally convinced that there were no planes. Investigations of the so called live footage proves it to be a farce! Look it up yourself on You Tube people and see what aviation and building demolition experts have to say. The outcome will blow your mind! Keep seeking the truth Dean and please continue to share it. Thank you for your braveness. P.s. Funny how everyone seems to know either family of someone who died on 9/11 or them personally, but cant back it up with actual facts.
It seems to me that there is a lot of covering up and unknowns. But I will say if it was a government conspiracy then all you claiming there were planes and whining about respecting the dead are just as wrong. What about the other close to 3000 that lost their lives? If the government killed thousands that day they should have to answer for every last one. Including the people on those planes. It is clear that even experts have said they doubt the planes theory. No one is dishonoring the dead. Just trying to shed light and give answers to the doubters. If you want to claim dishonor then its on you for not wanting the absolute truth for your loved ones. Don't be blind or stupid to facts and proof.
I am not a conspiracy theorist but none of this makes sense. My father, recently deceased, was a career E.O.D. " Master Blaster" with v the U.S. Air Force. I know what he thought about the way those buildings came down, "They Had Help" Thermite!!!! On the main supporting structures.
He was an American Soldier who went where the nukes were when we went to Germany 2 times. He felt very betrayed by our government or who ever perpetrated this hoax on us.
There is a bigger picture at play with all this. We have become an apathetic and hedonistic society and as long as people get their pleasure fix they don't want to face the truth. It's too late anyway, the plan is in play already. His time is close.
I began by wanting to do a story on the businesses located in the World Trade Center. When I began my research I could not believe it. http://www.faithwriters.com/article-details.php?id=147221
After viewing YouTube videos reading 911 reports hearing from experts and interviews from news reports and the american presedent its clear there is a cover up . Don't tell some one to dismiss a claim if you have not researcherd it for your self seek the everdence look at all the facts for yourself.ask your self questions and it it doesn't may
Make since , ask the question research the question until it does.and ask the question no one is asking. WHY did this happened only then will you discover the truth the people involved want us to get lost in the HOW and WHO no one s asking why.look at why and you have the truth of 911
I worked for the National Weather Service at the time of 9/11. NWS has direct ties to the FAA at all times. We at NWS knew for certain that the entire eastern seaboard and northeast region of NORAD was ordered to STAND DOWN on the morning of 9/11. No tracking or reporting of anything. This is why.
To the people that are demanding anyone that is related to or knew someone that perished on 9/11 given them names of the family/friends that lost someone on the planes are ridiculous!!! There is absolutely no reason on Earth that you have the right to get the name of someone who lost a family member to a violent murder just so that you can contact them and either accuse them of lying, or being in on it. I did not know anyone personally who died on 9/11, but I HAVE talked to the sister of someone that perished on one of the planes. I did my own research to find her, and I can assure you that she did lose a family member. I encourage you to do your own research if you care so much, it took me all of 20 minutes to check passenger lists, and using Google I was able to find living family members. Which convinces me that none of you do half the research you claim to do. It's also funny how anyone who claims to know someone who knew someone from 911 is a liar, yet when someone who "worked for the airlines" backs up your stories you take it as evidence, haha. Again, call me a liar...but I have spoken with a family member of a person who died on one of the planes however I am not claiming I knew the person (or anyone) who died on 911...I encourage you all to do your research, and reach out to someone that lost someone that day and come at them from a point of compassion rather than spite and bitterness.
Yeah. I lost my cousin that day. He was working at his desk in his office on floor 96. AA 11 crashed into his office killing him immediately. The only comfort we feel is that he suffered no pain but died at once.
I'm sure he saw a large passenger plane approaching in his final moments. He was 20 years old when he died. We miss him so much. I was four years old when it happened. His body was never found.
BS! you said he was your uncle previously in this blog... your credibility just went out the window....
Thank you. My dad lost his life as AA 11 crashed into 1 WTC. He was in his office working. We think that the jet fuel killed him.
When my unborn child is 4 or 5 years old, I will discuss 9/11. I want them to know what happened on that day. I'm a daughter of a Tower One victim.
P.S stop accusing Mary of lying. We are all allowed to make mistakes it's how we learn. She's not the one insisting there were no planes, is she?
The officially sanctioned conspiracy theory is the path of least resistance for most people.
How many passengers were allegedly identified by DNA match of remains on each flight?
Who has the test reports of the DNA analysis? I imagine there would be a write-up on what was found and what it was compared with.
How many people known to be in the twin towers never had any remains found? As I recall, it was over 1,000, and I find that suspicious especially if they were able to find remains of airline passengers.
First of all; English is not my native tongue.
If 9/11 was the most coordinated terrorist attacks in recorded mankind, why hijack four planes at that early hours when everybody knows there would be lesser people there? That make no sense!.
It "only" died about 3000 people.
It would propably died far more people if the supposed hijackers just crashed the planes on to the Manhattan ground.
Why should al-Quaeda for the first time ever try to kill as few people as the could have done?
Osama bin laden categorically denied all participation in 9/11. Why?
What i understand the talibans was ready to hand him (Osama) over if the US could show the evidence of his and al-Quaeda`s participation. Well, that did not happen as everbody know. Why not?
I absolutely dont Think that George W Bush had any knowledge about 9/11.
It was a co-operation between the American military, CIA and Mossad.
The government story was obviously ready to go within half an hour of the events of 911. There is evidence of the alleged aircraft involved still being around after that day, as well as at least nine alleged hijackers still being alive and well in the Middle East. There was ample evidence of high grade thermite used in WTC one and two. An office fire didn't bring down WTC seven, and a 757 didn't hit the pentagon nor a field in PA.
To say this shows disrespect for those killed is an error, as they were in fact killed by some evil plan. The search for what really happened, and who really laid those plans is a search for justice. When government fails, and has the cooperation of the media, the government is no longer acting in the best interest of the people and the media are no longer our watchdogs. The task of this search falls on those willing here on social media. Julie was a victim and my former boss at AON.
Megan thank you for saying what I would have said! The author and commentators have NO "credible" proof. The ONLY commentators who are right are Megan, Charles, Autumn and Amanda.
Everyone else is STUPID and should be ignored as they DONT know what they're talking about! Dean you CLEARLY live under a rock as do most of the posters.
I'm sure Dean and the others think it's far better to live under a rock than to go through life with their head buried in the sand.
These issues have nothing to do with respecting those that died. It has to do with honoring those that died and the American public by getting true answers to the obvious masquerade of the official conspiracy theory on 911.
You all need help. Everyone knows that 9/11 was a hoax to settle the US & Bush Family drug empire debt with Osama Bin Laden. Also, I have a relative who's worked for the Pentagon for 20 years and she said the day before 9/11, she & her colleagues were told not to come to work on 9/11. I know this because I work in Downtown, DC & on the day of 9/11, I heard what happened & tried calling my cousin's office at the Pentagon & no one answered any of the lines. l called her later on her cell phone & that's when she told me that she & her colleagues were already ordered to take that day off. Isn't that strange?
WRONG. It is ALL about respecting the innocent people who died. If you TRULY wanted to honor the dead which I STRONGLY doubt you do you would believe the official story that IS BACKED up by a EXTENSIVE investigation!!!
Any question that attempts to discover the truth isn't stupid.
??? Extensive investigation? there was no investigation
You can say what you want - but u can't disprove the facts:
(1) planes were not commercial aircraft - they were grey - no windows - no marking except for a blue round logo - had bottom fuselage attachment same as military planes (Fact) and even the engines are the same square shape as the military aircraft
(2) its absolutely conclusive that no plane hit the pentagon - was a missile - no photos or video from government shows its a cover up - no engine parts or any part of a plane... except for a small engine rotor the size of 1/3 of a mans body (missile engine) - also same for plane that smashed in the field
(3) 7hrs after the attack the government detonates building 7 (no damage) – takes weeks to charge and bring down a building – this is the single biggest sign of an inside job – yet its never investigated
Ive seen many documentaries on 911 from wifes and family of 911 victims wanting answers and not getting them, famous americans asking for the truth, independent american reporters, and engineers - everyone has the same story and questions - the volume of information is overwhelming
Not one company or group have done a complete extensive investigation / documentary - like a proper inquest to unravel the truth as a whole and deliver the smoking gun
Why has no one tracked down the living "hijackers" who are living today?
Why has no one credibly identified that the 911 plane victims were real? and validate this? interview their family? Do they really exist?
all planes are fitted with a ping beacon that sends information every hour to validate its communication systems is active - this is how they located Malaysia Airlines Flight 370s final locations before it went missing - why has no one investigated where the planes were using this?
As a conspiracy theory one needs to obtain enough information to prove it’s a conspiracy to prove the theory – people are more aware and the fact that 85% of americans believe it was a cover up shows that the movement is growing
But the American people need more proof – and further investigative work needs to happen – this will only happen with the help of the American public!
Its your country – and you need to fight for your country
it belongs to you.... the people.... not a few people in power
an extensive investigation requires a team of investigative reporters / journalists, producers, lawyers interviewing people on the scene, and experts in the field as well as law enforcement and people within the CIA etc - then create a complete documentary / report
if someone creates a kickstarter fund the money can be raised to make this happen - its unto you the american public
CIA....Mainstream Media....journalists. Anyone who believes anything the Government, or any of the fore-mentioned, tell you is naive. Do you really believe anything you hear on CNN? Wake up. You are sleeping.
The only entity that has disrespected the plane passengers has always been the conspirators and their accomplices who carried out this heinous crime. There is no doubt that the passengers were put on a single plane, sent to a vacated NASA Glen Research Center and then gassed. The communication from Betty Ong , flight attendant, mentioned Mace. What did they do with the bodies? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzrFOiH1WPU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdE1Cwnymzc
From a perspective of a person that takes no side and questions the conspiracy theories in all cases. I look at the facts and then I question the possible truth as to what really happened. I don’t just say that it was a conspiracy. I don’t even say that if it looks true then it is absolute truth but it seems to be closer to the truth.
Fact 1. BBC broadcast that the WTC 7 collapsed and I actually saw the original live cross and knew that while she was saying this that behind her was the WTC 7 that actually had not collapsed. I first thought they just got the number wrong but later the building did collapse. That got my attention! But is it really a conspiracy especially when the owner said to ‘Pull IT!’. The question was asked to a specialist in demolition if it was possible to PULL a building within the time frame and the response was that a team of men could rig it up to happen but it would be difficult if a fire was in the building. Is it not possible that the insurance company agreed to pay the cover because the owner was a really good customer but would only do it if it was looked as an accident. And is it not possible that if others knew of the plan then they would look at the insurance company in a negative way and their shares would drop or people would cancel their insurance and go to another company. Lets just say WTC 7 was imploded! It was not done by the same heat source you suggest used in the towers as it did not have the same attributes but only that of TNT or similar detonation. It is possible that it was only a opportunistic approach to what was happening.
Fact 2. This may lean towards the conspiracy theorists but I still question it!
Those who know extremist in any religion that believes in a god know that these people really believe that their god exist. Its not a yeh I believe in god or alla they really believe. These people read their Bible or Koran or whatever and the extremist look at the words as a literal belief! Its no secret that the extremist bomb and kill innocent people but it is because they believe the words that they read say it is ok to do so! In no way does the Koran say that it is ok to lie, not once! If the extremist lies then they are going against Alla and will face the consequence of living in Hell! SO when Osama Binladen says he did not do this then you can be assured he did not! 911 was the catalyst for the world attacking Osama and his people be it other levels of belief. Not one organisation claimed this event but they did in other attacks.
Fact 3. Flight 93. I like most see these people as hero’s but what really happened! Who were they trying to stop! I didnt see the original broadcast of the BBC saying that it was just a hole in the ground with bits of pieces lying around and no real plane engines or bodies were found. I didn’t see the original media release that says Rumfield had ordered the plane to be shot down in a later interview. I just heard that they were heros and the plane was stopped from hitting the white house. I did see the later stuff on other social media but what is the truth!! If that plane did not crash at that spot then where did it crash or where are the people and who did this! Rumfeld said he ordered it to be shot down and it was according to him so where is it! I am genially concerned about this one as I believe they were hero’s trying to stop something! Could anyone that had a friend or family member or colleague on this plane shed some light on the truth! Did they find any bodies or body parts? And I am so sorry for using it as a fact. Please forgive me.
Fact 4. Like most watching this tragedy unfold we saw the media reporting on the Pentagon. I am not sure if you got it live as I did but I guess a lot did. I was in a state of shock and did not question what had happened but later I was able to go back and view it with my TIVO. Those that know we did not get the graphics of something flying into the Pentagon until much later but we did get the media reports soon after the tragedy. The reporters interviewed a lady who got out and she said she did not see a plane as she exited the hole in the building and the reporter said that only small pieces of metal were lying on the ground. No engine or bodies. This was not something that I noticed at the time but I did save it on my TIVO. When I saw the reports on social media about flight 93 I then notices that the Pentigon had the same result. This does not mean to me that it was a conspiracy! This means that the pentagon was attacked and maybe the govt knew something that they did not want to share to the public and decided to offer other information!
Yes I might question what happened after the towers but just because information on those other sites don’t seem to add up does not mean absolutely the towers were done by our government! The truth is that we don’t know the absolute truth and some parts may not relate to others. Ok
Dude the fact that the government knew about 911 attacks... (if twin towers was terrorist or USA government doesn't matter) ....the simple fact that they knew and flew a missile into their own pentagon shows conspiracy - Its that simple!
Who flew the missile into the Pentagon! I don't believe you know or have the proof! You might be right but where is the proof it was our Government! Yes I do know about what you are saying but I did not bring that up and I did not bring a lot more up that I may know more than you! I deal in the truth and to find the absolute truth or its just a theory! If you came to me as I am an attorney I would have to throw you out until you came to me with the absolute proof! Don't worry I would stand beside you as we hang those bastards but we have to get the absolute truth and conspiracy theory only pollutes the truth!
The truth is already polluted. The establishments (UK, USA, EU), have been in cahoots for a very long time creating one false flag after another to put more money in their pockets and power in their hands. Now they are trolling the internet injecting fraud into threads to confuse the masses even more. You, sir, sound like a troll. The only 'facts' you present are those which are reported by mainstream media, a conglomeration of establishment paid shills. Muslims are not the enemies. Osama Bin Laden, a former CIA agent, could have been part of the attack, but was definitely a target. If you're not on the side of this absolutely corrupt government, watch closely for the next false flag coming to a military state near you.
Please try to comprehend what I am saying and I am writing this slower for you to process this at your speed. An IQ is made up of mainly four components, Visual, special awareness, working memory and processing speed. Breaking that down is in essence is looking at the persons ability in receptive an expressive language, a component also known as matrix which deciphers pattern and the ability to be able to meet tasks at an appropriate speed. Yes there is more but when you bring the working memory into the equation with some of the other attributes and you test in the borderline range then it can reveal you having a language disability. You may be able to read something but in the process you are unable to comprehend correctly the fullness of the text. In these forums there is a need for the use of fluid reasoning to comprehend the inference and build on the discussion with a level of intellect if you want to be taken seriously.
Corruption exists at all levels, and manipulation for both good and evil will be around until the end and let me tell you this 911 conspiracy has grown strength because of the media and not because people are continually passing messages to each other personally. Yes I did see these facts through the media but to try and make a point I don’t just listen to the words I look at what is happening around the scene and what I already know to be the standardised norms in such situations and how different people see things differently. A young child sees the same media as a an adolescent and a person with an IQ of around 50 and a person with an IQ of 100 who has been raised on a sheep farm and a rocket scientists, engineer, fire marshal, pilot, and the list goes on. If I am standing beside an engineer with expertise in building structures and demolition while we are watching this tragedy unfold, who do you think I will listen to… the reporter or the person standing beside me when he can see something happening that he really knows about and I don’t!
There is so many facets of this tragedy that people from different intelligences and backgrounds understand some aspects of the situation that just don’t add up but all the other stuff happening around they don’t understand. I am one of those people and I say to myself that is not correct information being fed to the public but I don’t throw a blanket over everything and say it is all wrong and scream conspiracy.
When you go to the movies what you actually are seeing frame by frame pictures being sped up which make the visual see a story line and basically one truth, the one you are watching but in the 911 saga if you slow down the frames then you are seeing each frame as the truth and because there is thousands of frames each one projects their own truth different to the next one. When each profession comes to the table with their own truth in understanding what they know as a controversial opposition to the facts presented then still you do not get the whole picture that presents an absolute final truth but still only sections that are closer to the absolute.
Based on your words I encourage your input but I doubt you really have any real knowledge on this subject to offer and help it grow and move forward to a prosecution of the guilty if that is the actual case. Once all proof is gathered then we have the fight to be able to present it and head towards a trial. I believe at this stage it looks as though we would have more luck building a city on the moon! Lets assume that the conspiracy is real then you need to consider that the people in this world might just want to move forward and not face the possible outcomes and backlash from bringing down a government and learning that maybe their next door neighbour was part of this which killed their loved ones.
All those budding psychologists please don’t come back with how I glossed over the IQ stuff as I was only pulling points out of my head that was used to make a point to this person and I was not trying to write a thesis or present to other psychologists.
As someone who attended 7 wakes/funerals, seeing 9/11 as an inside job is ridiculous! Everyone that was on flight 11 from Boston in which we knew all had services. To say names were fake, or the passengers from this flight are alive is nonsensical!
Nick I am sorry sorry for your loss and that of your friends and their family members who died on that day. I want to say not once did I refer to the attack on the towers as fake. I was responding to another person for their conspiracy theory. I read my comment and I could understand that what you read might be taken as how you responded. It was actually a flow on effect from my original comment that you don’t make comments unless you know it to be the truth or fact. That if it is the absolute truth then conspiracy theory only causes confusion. That if it is the absolute truth that some parts associated with the attacks are corrupt then leave it to the ones who know the truth and stop speculating.
I know Susan Lindauer and she believes it was part terrorism and part government. I believe her up to a point but I argued that she should not include in her talks what other people tell her but only what she personally knows first hand. Let those other people come forward when they are ready and share their absolute first hand knowledge on the subject. She disagreed and if you see her talks you would know what I mean. In a court of law if I sit in the chair and say someone told me then the judge would stop me as it is only considered as here say and not submissible in court. My argument was not about what people are saying because they chose to believe but about seeking the facts and dealing in absolute first hand truth.
Now let me make one point that might be considered controversial. I had a family member go to the Vietnam war and he died what I was told a hero. We buried him with the full service and I was so proud of him yet upset to lose him. His friend went to war with him and years later his friend came and saw me because he felt he needed to tell me the truth as to what happened. He told me that as they were about to run forward towards the enemy my family member panicked and ran off to the side through the jungle. This person told me that my family member was screaming that he could not do this and then stood on a mine and was blown up. I got so upset about hearing this information that I wanted to kill the friend. He just ripped my heart out as he told me the truth. I threw him out and for years I never talked to him but eventually I did and eventually I had to accept the truth. I guess that’s why I am so adamant for absolute truth and not this conspiracy theory. I don’t want to hear that maybe our government was behind our people being murdered and that what some are saying our people were taken to another airport and murdered. As far as I am concerned it is bullshit! But if it is not then I want the people to come forth who know and prove it or just shut the fuck up!
Who said names were fake? The establishment has no conscience. They did indeed commit acts of terror throwing a false flag to get us to war with Iraq and Afghanistan. We are their pawns and their patsies. This isn't the first mass murder they've committed and it won't be the last. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM
Earthey you replied to the wrong person when you ask who said the names were fake? Your fluid reasoning has missed the mark. Firstly the expressive language of “fake” has a number of connotations attached to it! This starts at what I will term the statement of facts in an earlier comment and how flight 11 was not mentioned in those comments, in fact the twin towers were never mentioned in the comments. My use of the word “fake” is an inference to another comment made that I could understand Nick reading into one of my other comments as to me saying by another inference that I might be one of those people who believe the names were fake as they were not on the plane that hit the towers. Nick was sharing that he went to a number of those funerals and wakes where the loved ones were on flight 11 and he did not want to hear people referring to the deaths as being fake! Obviously Nick is the one who actually made not the inference but the direct statement. So in that point you need to reply to his comment.
Susan Lindauer is the first American whistle-blower that was charged with the patriot act. She was going to address Congress of what was happening but a few got to her before she could. If she got to congress before 911 what do you think would have happened! Addressing Congress would create a political debate and press secretaries would release something that maybe today might have seen terrorism stopped when it came to the 911 outcomes. Susan has faith in Congress but she does name names she does not have faith in! So who are you referring to as the establishment?
I digress at this point to make a controversial argument that maybe could bring America back into what could be considered a moral code. When you look back at history and some of the political and religious power entities and I refer also to our own construction of the constitution and bill of rights. Conservative movements would actually have what could be termed an “eldership”. These people would come together and discuss what the right course is and together they would present a fair and just application to the world. Neither person would align themselves with others to get something out of the group for their own gain and one person did not get to choose who could be part of the group and who could not. You had to meet a level of intelligence and strict moral code to even be considered. The President had to listen to wise counsel and was held accountable, binding to a morality. What happened though was eventually the President, church leaders, state employees and even local government leaders would align themselves with people who were yes men and would give powers to those leaders without questioning properly their motivations. It is a fine line but instead of the leaders choosing to follow the wisdom of good counsel they align themselves with people who want to gain something for their own division and so the leaders make up their own decision and follow that path. Just imagine having 8 old people who have no roll in CIA, FBI, Generals and stuff but just old people chosen from all elderships around the country for their moral codes and the CIA and all the other departments have to present to them what is happening. Then that wise counsel has the powers to talk to consulates and get their stories and then would sit around and discuss what is best with the president and then the president makes the call based on having faith in his eldership. The problem today is that the system is divided and the information is not transparent within that system for all to question and so you get a few running off and doing what they want and using a system that could be considered unconstitutional. The lines get so blurred that some are really getting away with criminal acts. Just like Judas getting a bag of coins to sell out Jesus our leaders in those government departments are getting bags of money to sell out our moral codes and do things that destroy what our forefathers put in place to protect us.
I argue for people to come forth, strong men and women like Susan Landauer who do have proof and for those Judases who received their bag of coins for turning a blind eye to allowing terrorism to create 911. I personally believe that some of our leaders in those government departments were involved to some extent and possibly only knew about their part and not the whole picture. I still hold faith in our Congress and believe if Susan was able to present to them we would not be mourning our loved ones due to 911.
And no Sir I am not a troll! I just don’t go off half-cocked with wild accusations! I want the truth and I want justice. If our President and his 2 sidekicks were involved then I want a public hanging for killing thousands of innocent people on our own shores. Extradite them to Iraq and let them face the same consequences as Sudam!
I want Bush and Cheney waterboarded
This should help clarify who was really behind 911.
It "clarifies" nothing fruitloops
People who resort to name calling have nothing worthwhile to contribute in exposing the official hoax story that has so many holes it makes Swiss cheese is envious.
As Craig commented above, "The officially sanctioned conspiracy theory is the path of least resistance for most people." If I had lost a relative there, I would want to get to the bottom of what really happened rather than some fantastic story of goat herders in an Afghanistan cave masterminding the crime of the century that managed to befuddle our entire multi-billion intelligence community.
I laugh at you Dean. As someone who lost her cousin on 9/11 I pity you. You obviously don't know what happened.
I refuse to buy your stupid books that are a insult to the families of the victims, including my own.
Shame on you all who know nothing about 9/11.
Excluding Holly, Amanda and Megan.
Your a fraud Mary... you said you lost your uncle "twice" on the 96th floor sitting at his desk at the beginning of this blog... "oops" you must have forgotten that because he is now your cousin.... I suspect this blog is being monitored and has officials making personal statements to help refute the facts and keep people in the dark....
I believe the many hours of video online, I think its at least 40 hours of viewing. The sheer quantity of researchers, airline pilots, building construction experts, demolition experts, policemen at the scene. The list goes on. I respect the fireman's associastion still waiting for that government report.Here in England we want the reports on why we went to war with Iraq, Afghanistan. I believe Osma Bin Laden's professed non involvement in it all. His family close friends of Bush senior seem to have been behind discrediting him.
Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
You conspiracy theorists are absolutely sick.
This is sick-
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