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What Is the Real Story about Jesus?

12/11/2011

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_ The story of Jesus has been one of the most frequently told in world history.  But I am a little confused.  Did he really say he was going to return?  Here are a series of questions I have about this subject:

When Was Jesus Born?

No one has been able to ascertain exactly when Jesus was born.  Scholars typically place the year of his birth at around 4 BC (Before Christ) or BCE (Before Common Era).

Was Jesus born before he was born?

When did Jesus die?

As with his birth, there is no certain year for his death.  Scholars put his death at around 30 CE (Common Era).

Why wasn’t the year of his death noted anywhere if it was that important?

What did Jesus tell people about the coming Kingdom of God?

He told them that it would take place during their lifetimes. (Matthew 24:34)

Why don’t Christians acknowledge that this prediction was wrong?

When did the Apostle Paul, one of the earliest Christian writers, begin to preach?

Paul makes no mention in his letters of the destruction of Jerusalem, which took place in 70 CE. It is reasonable to assume he must have written them before that point in time.  Paul was an early persecutor of Christians and subsequently had his “conversion” to Christianity some time later.  So, it is widely thought that he wrote his letters somewhere around 50-60 CE.

What is significant about Paul’s letters?

Paul states in 1 Corinthians 15:6 that there were 500 witnesses to the risen Jesus but gives no names even though he says they are still around.

Why didn’t he produce these witnesses instead of giving what sounds like hearsay?

When were the Gospels put into writing?

Paul never says anything about what we now call the Gospels (of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John), so his preaching must have taken place before they were put into writing.  Scholar consensus has the Gospels starting around 70 CE with Mark, Matthew and Luke and ending with John in about 90 CE.

What is significant about the last Gospel, that of John?

John is the only Gospel to refer to Jesus as God.  (Source: Ehrman, Bart D.: Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why. HarperCollins, 2005.)

Why don’t the other Gospels say anything about this key tenet of the Christian faith?

There is no discussion in the Gospel of John of an upcoming “Kingdom of God.” (Source: "Biblical Literature." Encyclopedia Britannica Online).

Why did the Gospels stop mentioning the upcoming Kingdom?

Did the early Christians change the message when it suited their interests in attracting converts and establishing their religion?

Christians, help me out here!
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Jesus
12/13/2011 02:24:16 am

Hell_I_was_just_a_local_hippie_having_a_bit_of_fun_with_the_Rabbis._Boy!_they_got_no_sense_of_humor_at_all!

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Stephen R. Zimmett
12/13/2011 03:09:48 am

Joseph Campbell said in his interviews with Bill Moyers that there were perhaps 40 different authors to the bible if not more. Why are only Matthew, Mark, Luke and John recognized as the true authors of this wonderful set of books??

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Bertrand Ruskin
11/3/2012 11:09:47 am

There are answers to these questions but you have to understand a few things.
When was Jesus born?
Short answer:6 or 5BC. Herod's death is mentioned by Josephus in Antiquities and can be readily calculated to be 4BC.
Matthew wrote the Magi came to find the new king of the Jews, and this by a star (probably a supernova). They were looking for a boy aged up to 2 years of age. Meaning Christ was born up to two years before. Hence king Herod tries to kill all boys under the age of two.
Was Jesus born before He was born?
No, but He existed since before the creation of the earth and the universe. He is forever alive.
When did Jesus die?
Taking Luke's statement that Jesus was about thirty when He began His ministry in in the fifteenth year of Tiberius' reign, means that from John's gospel three Passovers are mentioned. Christ was crucified on the third. I take Luke to mean Tiberius' reign began after Augustus died in 14AD. So It means add 15 onto this inclusively and we get 28AD, Christ began His ministry. So He would have died in 31AD. Others count differently from when Tiberius began to co-rule with Augustus in 12AD, so making Christ's ministry begin in 26AD, and Christ died 29AD. This is not unusual to have difficulty in reading history, certainly of so long ago, to pin down when events happened.Only some people carefully keep diaries and it was like that then as well.
The Kingdom of God.
This is easily impossible to prove. For the kingdom will be in you says the Lord. You see, we believers are already in God's kingdom. The reason why you do not know us, is because you do not know Him. But once you know Him, you will also be in the kingdom.
People join "The kingdom of God" once God forgives their sins and God permits Himself to take up residence in a person in a way to rule their hearts and minds and souls. How do we get our sins forgiven? We ask God. It is the thing which separates us from knowing Him and being with Him.
About Paul, he was converted about 34AD. This is calculated from the letter to the Galatians (1v18, 2v1). The reason why Paul is so important is two fold, first because he led the movement away from making all converts to Christ first become Jews. Second he wrote the letters which explain how the laws of Moses and the prophets apply to Christ's ministry. Without Paul, it is very difficult to understand fully and appreciate completely what Christ achieved on the cross.
His first letter to the Corinthians had to have written around 51AD, and is the best testified earliest writing in antiquity with four references made to it. This letter as you quoted mentions the betrayal, the last supper, the crucifixion, the resurrection, and who Christ visited ans when. All this was reported as accepted within a very short period of time of Christ's ministry. It makes it very difficult for critics and non-Christians to argue against the historical trustworthiness of the early Christian claims of Christ performing miracles and rising from the dead.
There is no-one equal to Christ. No-one else has died and come back again three days later and then ascended into heaven.
One of the signs of the last days was there would be terrific global climatic changes, another was the Jews would return to Jerusalem ending the times of the Gentiles, and the hearts of many would grow cold. He will come again, but as the King and complete Ruler. And all will be judged. This is His promise.

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